request status of http://www.mymortgagerebate.com

carym2000

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I submitted www.mymortgagerebate.com about 2 months ago. it was submitted under Top: Business: Financial Services: Mortgages: Regional: United States: Washington

At the present time it should probably be a more general category, but it was appropriate at the time.

Thanks for your reply!
 

hutcheson

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Not eligible for listing. A company should be represented by its home page, not doorway or vanity-single-product-line domains.
 

carym2000

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clarification

Thank you for your reply, I know you are very busy.

Being a mortgage professional I see a lot of individual loan officer web sites that are in no way linked to their company. (I can list examples that are already in the DMOZ if you want) To me, my web site is the same type of web site - individual promotion marketing specific products that are the expertise of my team.

Could you take the time to enlighten me as to how it would be possible to promote my specific business (since the company/corporate promotion does not benefit me at all) in a fashion acceptable to the DMOZ?

Thank you for your time.
 

hutcheson

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No, I can't. And even if it were possible at all (which is often not the case for "promotional" websites) that's beyond the scope of this forum.
 

carym2000

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Is there a forum in which to learn that? I've read a lot of the submission information posted in the DMOZ, and the reason that my site was not accepted was not something I would have thought.

Just trying to learn here... :)

Thanks again for your time.
 

carym2000

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One thought - should/could I submit my personal company website for the region I am in? http://caryminden.acceptancecapital.com

I just ran and re-read the submission rules and am still confused. Which is why I failed my editor test I'm sure. *grin*

Thanks for your time and patience.
 

hutcheson

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Actually, the reason I gave is merely a cluster of special cases of the "insufficient unique content" rule.

Here's how.

Promotional content doesn't count. Like ad banners on a page, we ignore it (if we can) on our way to the INFORMATIONAL content. Some verbiage serves both purposes -- and counts as informational. Obviously you're thinking in terms of promotion, so this last represents the only possible intersection of interest. But there's nothing preventing you from having some promotional content on a site listed in the ODP because of its rich informational content.

Here, we're concerned with information about a company. And that is either authoritative (that is, from the company itself) or independent (that is, "consumer information".) Authoritative information can be spotted by its being linked with approval from the company's home page (whether or not it's on the same domain), so we only need to give one URL.

Now, your content is either promotional (in which case we do not list it) authoritative (in which case it is the company's responsibility to link to it, and we just link to them), not unique (in which case we list the more authoritative company site) or not authoritative -- even the company itself didn't link to it, in which case it can be assumed to have very low informational value.

So it's either not unique or not information or not of interest even to the most interested party. We don't necessarily know which, but it doesn't really matter. It's easier to say "ah, we've already got this company listed; it's their responsibility -- not ours -- to have all their information linked together."

That gives us a simple guideline that fits most cases: one company, one website. It rewards well-interlinked sites. It places the responsibility for presenting corporate information on the corporation where it originates and where it is most valuable. It protects us from the abusers who say, "My company website doesn't link to all its pages, so you guys have to" or "I crippled my own website navigation in order that you should reward me with more deeplinks." (and perverse as that seems, it is not all that unusual a demand).
 

hutcheson

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As for the Acceptance Capital company -- it has shards spread over a lot of domains. That always raises red flags, and the editor has to track them down to make sure only the one is listed. That's a lot of extra work for us -- particularly when the connection between them is shrouded or concealed. (From our point of view, that's misinformation or missing information, which is not what we list.)

Before you submit anything, make sure that a surfer going to any of the sites can readily find the way to the main corporate page, and then back (that is, that the domains are fully and clearly interlinked.) Otherwise, it looks like one of the standard affiliate/doorway scam schemes to us, and reviewing the site in maximally-suspicious mode may take longer than an editor thinks it's worth. (Or at worst, the editor may conclude that a long-forgotten doorway domain is the main page and all unbeknownst to you, reject all of your submittals with maximum prejudice in favor of it.)

Full disclosure and caveat: the advice about interlinking domains will be fatal if you're pulling some blatant dodgy search engine schemes or mass duplicated content. But I saw no evidence of that in my brief browsing.
 

carym2000

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That made it very clear. I'm going to print that out and put it with my DMOZ file. I might not agree with everything, but the way you said it made sense, and it will keep me from screwing up on some of the other (totally separate) ventures I have when I submit those websites.

Thank you for taking a minute out of your busyness to clarifying it.
 
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