resubmitting ok?

SpudMonkey

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Hi

A few months ago I submitted a site, for the second time.
When I checked my logs, I saw that an editor had viewed the site when my hosting company was having problems with their servers.
This, I believe, would have led to a rejection.

The site has changed substantially since the first time I submitted it, do you think it's ok to resubmit?
 

CrabbieMaster

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Question re logs indicating DMOZ editor review

Spudmonkey or hutcheson - I submitted a site in December and haven't been listed. I use PowWeb to host our site and awstats, but don't know how one would access and read logs to see if the site has been viewed by an editor...can you describe how I could do that?

I doubt that I had any kind of problem like bad host server timing, but the site has, since December, been favorably received or reviewed or approved in a number of ways. Based on these kinds of 'endorsements' or 'achievements' would it be acceptable to resubmit or am I supposed to just keep waiting and hoping someone simply happens to look at it even though it feels like it would be a slam dunk if it just got seen (I am truly at a loss):

Yahoo! (non-commercial 'Society and Culture > Families > Parenting' listing);

Zeal accepted us very quickly (but Zeal is now discontinued);

FamilyFreindlySites and SafeSurf labelled, plus the ICRA label is pending our webmaster putting in the code (these are 'self-rated', and then the site is reviewed, but it is not appropriate to say a site is 'approved' - that's not the right way to describe it);

Cool Site of the Day (4/16);

Won 'Adding Wisdom Award' from Jodie Lynn, syndicated parenting/health expert, Parent to Parent, CEO/founder of www.parenttoparent.com, and author of family/health book, Mommy-CEO.

per awstats - over 1/3 of unique visitors Added [us] to Favorites (note - per powweb forum this estimate tends to be overstated but I do not know by how much...but it still seems pretty positive).

If it was inappropriate to write all this, my sincere apologies, I am just sort of grasping for straws here because people who see the site certainly seem to like it.

Thank you for your consideration,

Michael Undlin
CrabbieMasters
 

hutcheson

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>but don't know how one would access and read logs to see if the site has been viewed by an editor...can you describe how I could do that?

I don't believe it is possible. Sometimes you may notice something in your log which corresponds to a visit from an editor. Sometimes an editor will visit in a way that your logs cannot possibly distinguish.

It's also easy enough to spoof logs so that it appears an editor has visited -- but I have no idea how many people have ever bothered to do this.

Promoting a site here won't effect or affect a review. It is, however, possible that the actual online recommendations you mention may cause a quicker review, if an editor happens to be browsing those sites looking for URLs.
 

CrabbieMaster

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hutcheson - thank you

I asked about the log because the original poster said he saw that an editor had visited by looking at his log...would never have thought of it myself and your answer does make sense...just another dead end ;) c'est la vie...

I wasn't meaning to promote the site with respect to the positives described...my apologies if it was taken that way...my real question was whether this type of thing would justify submitting my site now after 5-6 months from when originally submitted...would that be okay?
 

shadow575

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CrabbieMaster said:
I wasn't meaning to promote the site with respect to the positives described...my apologies if it was taken that way...my real question was whether this type of thing would justify submitting my site now after 5-6 months from when originally submitted...would that be okay?

Resuggesting a listable site once to the correct category wouldn't cause any harm if that is what you are asking.
Once your site has been suggested to the directory, the suggestion doesn't expire. It sits until an interested editor volunteers to look at it (and there is no way of predicting when that may occur) and take action. The action taken is one of three things:
  1. Add a compliant Title and Description and list the site
  2. Move the site to the correct or more appropriate category for review (usually but not always by another editor)
  3. Delete from unreviewed because it is not listable within the guidelines.
There is a fourth option, just to ignore but I don't consider that as *taking an action* ;)

If for some reason you felt the first suggestion didn't go through (You didn't received the Thank you page following your suggestion) or the content changed significantly from when you first suggested it, then resuggesting it once would be sufficient to correct any errors. Previous suggestions are usually automatically over-written by newer ones. So resuggesting a site that is already waiting would over-write the waiting one. An editor who did decide to review the waiting urls and was looking by suggestion date (some do, many do not) would move the newer suggestion to the bottom. The only side-effect would be a longer wait for review.

My suggestion would be that if you are fairly confident that the suggestion went through (i.e you saw the Thank you for your suggestion page) then there is no reason to resuggest unless the content changed significantly or you think the category was incorrect.

Hope that helps.
 

mony30

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Do not give up on submission

You could submit again of course but , this time try to do the necessary modifications to ensure your site will be accepted by following the guidelines they provide.
 

CrabbieMaster

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shadow575 said:
Resuggesting a listable site once to the correct category wouldn't cause any harm if that is what you are asking.
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Hope that helps.


Thank you very much for taking time to explain this...what I think I'll do is double check everything on the site and then again (I thought I did last time?) submit it...after that I'll just cross my fingers for awhile... :)

Thanks
CrabbieMaster
 
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