Same IP - Different domain Names

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Grace

Hi all,
We have 2 domains having same IP address.One domain is listed in Dmoz.If i want the other Domain to be listed in the directory, is that possible? Or how can i delete the existing domain and add the other domain in the directory.Please help me out with this.
 

Alucard

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This is far too theoretical for us to be able to answer, I'm afraid. Mostly because the answer is "that depends". In general, though, we don't care about what IP address a particular web site resolves to - that in itself is not a factor in the list/no-list decision. It really does depend on what is on the sites.
 
G

Grace

I have to mention one more thing, both the domains have same content and different page ranks.
 

Alucard

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ok, then listing both isn't going to happen.

If you wish to change the existing listing to the other domain, then go to the page for the category where the site is listed, click on the "Update URL" button at the top right of the page and enter the information in the form. This will get reviewed by an editor, just like a new submission.

Thanks.
 

hutcheson

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Note that in a case like this, where both URLs go to the same content, the editor SHOULD not, and normally WILL not, change to the other URL.

Why?

Well, how do we know the submitter is the original webmaster and not a plagiarist who just copied all the content to his own server, and then tried to hijack the ODP listing, too?

We could investigate?

No, thanks, we've got better things to do with our time, like ... totally waste it. We review websites, we don't investigate submitters. A submittal is supposed to help us do our job better, not waste our time with irrelevancies.

If the existing URL works, it will probably stay.

So: you need to make sure the existing URL DOESN'T work. There are three ways in which a URL works.

One is that when you go to foo.com, the standard DNS system finds the correct website -- there are no intervening redirections of any other kind. This is the most important.

One is that when you browse to "foo.com", the site's self-description and self-references use "foo.com" -- if the page heading says "bar.com" or the link to "home" goes to "bar.com", then obviously foo.com is a vanity-doorway URL and the submitter is an deceptive spammer.

And finally, humans look at the URL to see which, if any, provides more actual information. "smith-affiliate-marketroids.com" will be preferred to "buy-your-viagra-here-today.biz", because it obviously contains more information about the business which the website represents -- the critical factor for any commercial website.

If these three definitions of "correct" are out of sync, then again, we shouldn't change the URL.

If you want to change the URL, WE have to KNOW (based on looking at the website, without any information whatsoever from the submittal -- even assuming every single bit of information (EXCEPT the request to re-review the site) in the submittal is false or misleading.

We take these precautions, and follow this process, in order to protect webmasters. And any legitimate website name change should correspond to changes in the first two items above, and no loss of information in the third.

So that tells any webmaster how to make sure a change is accepted. (1) make sure that the site name is used throughout the site, including titles, links, and even metatags. (2) make sure that the content, when accessed by the OLD URL, either (a) doesn't work, or (b) ostentatiously uses the NEW site name for everything, (3) redirect using a 301 permanent redirect to the new URL. The last is not required, but because our automatic link checker will flag the site for immediate human attention, it IS guaranteed to get the change made within approximately 4 months (that is, within a couple of weeks after the link checker runs.)
 
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