Site removed from directory, how to get it back? any help / suggestion ?

imnajam

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Hi,

My site was listed under the following category

Arts: Literature: World Literature: Pakistani: Poetry
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Literature/World_Literature/Pakistani/Poetry/

it stayed there for a very long time, and recently it has been removed from the directory, I wonder why this happened and my excellent website having more than 5.5 million page views have been removed from the directory.

I am very much confident about the quality of the website, and it's great value for the user.
can any body help me in this regard, just shoot me PM, or post here, I will provide my site details.

Thanks in advance
 

motsa

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Sites are removed from a category for any of a number of reasons, including:
1. The site is no longer listable (or was never listable).
2. The site is no longer (or never was) listable in the category where it was and has been moved for review in the right category.
3. The site was unavailable and was temporarily unreviewed.

If the site is still listable, then #2 or #3 is the likely reason for the site not be listed at the moment. In either case, the site will eventually be re-reviewed.
 

imnajam

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I beleive that none of the option is applicable, I have put up my website URL into home page field of my profile.

In addition to this I have some thoughts, that I would like to give you in private, for this reason I am sending you a Private Message, please read and reply to it privately!
 

windharp

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1st: Specific sites are not discussed in thios forum. We did so for a period in the past and decided that we don't see the benefit this has for the ODP, so we cancelled this.

2nd: Please note that most of the editors participationg in this forum do not answer PMs regarding specific requests. If anything can not be discussed in this forum, we don't encourage people to discuss the same things via PM. If you have a valid claim of an abusive editor, use the Abuse Report System. Please supply proof, otherwise it will be disregarded.

With all that said, simply looking at the category you gave: This category is for english language sites about poetry from Pakistan. If your site should not be in english, it could (and should) have well been moved to the apropriate category in the http://dmoz.org/World/ branch. This would have been number 2 from motsa's posting.
 

imnajam

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I tried to include PM here, but it has been held for moderation, once moderated, you would be able to better anlyze the case and would be accept my arguements that point no.2 do not apply in my case.
 

windharp

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Your posts have actively been removed by a moderator. Please reread the paragraph I labelled "1st", we don't discuss individual sites in this forum.
 

motsa

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I've deleted those moderated posts. I've also deleted the PM you sent me.

You've been given likely reasons why your site is no longer listed. That's all we can do for you. As windharp mentions, the category where your site was listed is for English-language sites. Urdu-language sites currently can only be listed in http://www.dmoz.org/Test/World/Urdu/ . Other languages are in http://dmoz.org/World .
 

imnajam

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motsa,did u read my pm or post before deleting?

beside my specific site, can you tell me if it's possible to manipulate "update listing" feature, and can you confirm this was not the reason for my site being removed and another site being added/appeared on the same place as of mine?

In addition to this, I see your suggested category and I feel it's not the right one because it's using urdu script to list sites. however my site offer content in english(but roman urdu script i.e using english alphabets for translating into urdu)

and that's not all I have observed, I tried visiting several websites listed within the category and feels that most of the sites listed there are having urdu for example :- <url removed>

please don't consider my example as request to remove resource from the directory.
 

hutcheson

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>Can you tell me if it's possible to manipulate "update listing" feature

An "update listing" suggestion, like other kinds of suggestions from the public, must be reviewed by a volunteer editor. The editor will decide what changes to make, based on reviewing the site or sites involved (and whatever other information seems relevant).

An editor could make a mistake handling such a suggestion. But editors are human and can also make mistakes perfectly well on their own. There's nothing especially manipulable about the "update listing" feature.

>can you confirm this was not the reason for my site being removed and another site being added/appeared on the same place as of mine?

Assume, for all practical purposes, that this is not the reason.

If site removal was a mistake, it doesn't matter to anyone WHY the editor made a mistake--the solution would be to fix it.

[You could make a suggestion, making sure you indicated what unique content was on the site--translations of Urdu poems, or analysis in English of Urdu poetry, or whatever, just so long as the information was in English.]

And if site removal was a good thing, it doesn't matter where the good idea came from--all we can say is, thanks to wherever the idea came from, and to whoever did the work!

There's no such thing as a site's "place" in the directory. Any category can contain multiple sites. A new site doesn't use up a "place", and a removed site doesn't leave a vacancy.

The fact that another site was added in the same category is not relevant. The same logic applies to any editing action.

If any listed site should not be listed by the ODP guidelines, that's a mistake, and you can make a suggestion to remove it. And if the site should be listed, thanks to whoever listed it, and to everyone who helped by making suggestions!
 

motsa

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In addition to this, I see your suggested category and I feel it's not the right one because it's using urdu script to list sites. however my site offer content in english(but roman urdu script i.e using english alphabets for translating into urdu)
Using the Roman alphabet is not the same as the site being in English. If the poetry is in a language other than English, regardless of whether the site is using the Roman alphabet or the language's proper script, then it cannot be listed outside of World or Test/World. The fact that the Test/World/Urdu category uses the Urdu script doesn't mean that the sites listed there must also use the script -- it contains sites whose content is in Urdu, regardless of font or alphabet used.

I tried visiting several websites listed within the category and feels that most of the sites listed there are having urdu for example
Having Urdu doesn't mean the site doesn't have English content.
 
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