site submission for http://www.superkeyword.net/blankmedia/

1: http://www.superkeyword.net/blankmedia
submitted to:
1: http://dmoz.org/Shopping/Entertainment/Recordings/Blank_Media/

when will it show up, thanks.

when will it show up

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It's awaiting review there but we have no idea when or even whether it will ever show up. We very rarely list deeplinks and the root URL is already listed.

I note that the website was only suggested a couple of weeks ago, yet our ATTENTION - Forum Guidelines - READ BEFORE POSTING asks that you wait at least a month before enquiring.

Our forum rules also require that you don't ask again until January 2005.

submiting

actually, its been several months, seems like everything is paid inclusions, unfortunately.

To clarify:

If you get a response "it was only a couple of weeks ago" it means thats the last time you submittted, the fact that you submiited a couple of months ago, and thats waht counts for this forum. And as far as ODP, resubmitting multiple times is not a good thing for you todo.

There are no paid inclusions. Where do you get this idea?

listing and paid inclusions

becuz, it seems on google, yahoo, netscape , the ones that use ur directory, keep advertising to submit "our links" to overture.com or another "paid to " include directories for faster listings.....

also, its untrue about our site :superkeyword.net, there are several links within that site that follow all guidelines, we are not hiding/ or redirecting any link to the same page.. this company is like yahoo.com or google.com with different sections.......... this compoany this expand from a search engine , to other areas. once it grows.. this place should be able to understand that..

also, its untrue about our site :superkeyword.net, there are several links within that site that follow all guidelines,

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You should probably spend some time reviewing the ODP guidelines - since you seem to have missed some of them.

We have a policy of generally not allowing people to submit deeplinks, [editors may on thir own decide to add them]

That discretion extends (but is not limited) ..... when deep linking is appropriate ...

http://www.superkeyword.net/blankmedia

In fact even submitting that URL is against the guidelines,since it redirects to http://superkeyword.net/blankmedia/

Do not submit any site with an address that redirects to another address.

once it grows..

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Reviews are based on the reality of the site, not what it might be in the future. If your site is not finished yet you should not have submitted.

Do not submit sites "under construction." Wait until a site is complete before submitting it.

Yes, many sites -- Google adwords and adsense, Overture, Yahoo, Looksmart -- all offer "paid" links and fast service. If that's what you want, there they are! The ODP doesn't need to offer that service: it's already covered, and there's no reason to suppose that we could do it any better than the others. (Actually, it's even worse than that: when the ODP was created, some of the others were offering free directory listings. The founders thought a community of amateurs could do that better, and they've been proven right. The flip side of that is that amateurs tend to resent other people being paid for the same work they do outside their favorite categories "for the good of the directory." It's very likely that any attempt to introduce paid inclusion would have a catastrophic effect on the morale and morality of the community.) So we don't try: we focus on a different mission.

Like all web hosting services, you offer a grab-bag of "other internet related services". Everyone offers a slightly different bag, but they are so many such sites, and they offer so many different little services for which we have categories (intended for specialists) that it is impractical to list each one under all the services. So our guideline is that such sites are listed once, with the description mentioning the range of services. (We tried it the other way, and it really really didn't work: there may even be some listings that are holdovers from those dark days. But we won't go back.)

What we DO list is customers of website hosts -- whether or not they have their own domain name. Google newsgroups, Yahoo Geocities personal sites or Yahoo shops can all be listed -- just like personal, community, or business shops that have their own domain name so we don't know who their website host is.

And, of course, Google and Yahoo both offer substantial amounts of unique content -- I think both of them would rank among the half-dozen most content-rich sites on the web. And for both of them, "hosting" is a late and minor addition (through corporate acquisition) to what was already a rich set of offerings of internally generated content.

I hope that clears up some of the confusion.

site links, redirection

www.superkeyword.net/blankmedia/ goes to www.superkeyword.net/blankmedia/

its not a redirection, another thing, the sites been finished, its been online for several years... i do appreciate this service. its just frustrating to see that every other editor does not understand what our intentions are. is just to list a site. so basically, it comes down to, if the editor feels like it or not. to update.. which is understandable.... I do want to point, out we are not a grab for all links, like one editor mentioned.. plus the fact that a grab for all is insulting.... please check the reference of "grab for all" before labeling someones site in the future... grab for all or redirects usually means " linking to paid / affiliate sites' products and services"

which we are not. these links are within our pages, not offering someone elses products or services..


is it a sites fault that it Has expanded to several business opportunties and offer a vast majority of services and entertainment sections?

The site is listed, so that's not an issue anymore. Deeplinks, though, are editors' judgment, are only for "exceptional cases" and are not open to discussion. When your site gets to the point that it looks exceptionally good compared to, say, Google and Yahoo, it would be time to revisit the possibility of deeplinking. It's not close yet.

But: have you submitted a change request to add these other services and sections to its description? This would be a very reasonable thing to do when you add content to a site. (Indeed, editors would probably even appreciate it!)

site listing/submission

thanks hutcheson for the fast response... the site is listed,yes, but not /blankmedia/ section, this is a shopping area, thats why it was submitted to your shopping/recordings:blankmedia


but back to the grab bag:
but per say, 4email.com is under : http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/E-mail/


now that is an Grab bag of a site.. like i said, we are not a grab bag.. i wish u can see that.. we have our own : business section with business solutions, services, webcasting/streaming services, which is wiht microsoft... to dare and say, we are not up to par with yahoo and google is absurd. the only reason, you had stated this is becuz. netscape/ google/ yahoo all run an partnership, am i not right? just seems like it, i am not arguing with your opinion, every one has one. but i did want to point out, we are not grab bag site..

is this a deeplink? blankmedia.superkeyword.net , thanks

was wondering if blankmedia.superkeyword.net is considered a deep link?

jimnoble said:

It's awaiting review there but we have no idea when or even whether it will ever show up. We very rarely list deeplinks and the root URL is already listed.

I note that the website was only suggested a couple of weeks ago, yet our ATTENTION - Forum Guidelines - READ BEFORE POSTING asks that you wait at least a month before enquiring.

Our forum rules also require that you don't ask again until January 2005.

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site listing

hi there, i do appreciate your fast response, that the fact is dmoz is a great place to help out small business, home pages and etc. to get listed within the search engines all for free. but superkeyword.net/blankmedia/ is not listed, the root and other pages are too, thanks... pls check on it though, i appreciate it. also, is blankmedia.superkeyword.net considered a deeplink?

thanks,
pak

hutcheson said:

The site is listed, so that's not an issue anymore. Deeplinks, though, are editors' judgment, are only for "exceptional cases" and are not open to discussion. When your site gets to the point that it looks exceptionally good compared to, say, Google and Yahoo, it would be time to revisit the possibility of deeplinking. It's not close yet.

But: have you submitted a change request to add these other services and sections to its description? This would be a very reasonable thing to do when you add content to a site. (Indeed, editors would probably even appreciate it!)

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>> was wondering if blankmedia.superkeyword.net is considered a deep link?

yes, it is.

And, just to complete the loop, even blankmedia-also-run-by-superkeyword-dot-net.com would also be considered a deeplink. It is the site structure, not its URI conventions, that is determinative.