Site submission issue

Hello,

I am new to DMOZ and recently submitted a site to the directory and believe that I made a mistake during the process. I inadvertently used the "title" and "description" information as per my .html index page. Is it possible for me to re-submit my site to DMOZ with a more meaningful "title" and "description"?

Thanks for your time and hope that somebody can help.

Kind regards

Terry

Hi

Thanks for suggesting your site. A second suggestion of the url to exactly the same category will do no harm - merely overwrite the first one. Note that the editor reviewing it is likely to rewrite the description anyway based on their review.

regards

If you suggest the same URL to the same ODP category with a different title and description, your new suggestion will automatically overwrite the previous one, no fuss, no muss.

<added>Eric types faster...and, for that matter, thinks faster--he's already added the note which I was going to edit in as an afterthought.

Thanks for the quick and helpful responses hutcheson and Eric-the-Bun. I was just concerned about re-submiting any implications this might have, such as being picked up for SPAM.

I am not sure if I need to start this as a new thread, but when my site was originally submitted it was submitted to:- "Top: Regional: Europe: United Kingdom: Health: Complementary and Alternative: Massage Therapy". Which I believe to be the most relevant / descriptive directory. None of the sub directories of this category seem to apply to me really.

However, I have since read some information in the profile of editor of the parent directory, as there is no editor for the directory I have submitted to. The editor mentions :- "The most common mistake I see is to submit a geographically specific massage practice to a general massage category. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE submit your massage clinic or practice to the appropriate regional category."

Hence, should I have really submitted my site to:- "Top: Regional: Europe: United Kingdom: England" county, town etc.

Thanks again for all of your help and I really appreciate you taking the time to read and respond.

Kind regards

Terry

Most probably you should have done so. But do not worry. When an editor looks at your site he will decide where to list it and if needed move it to the right town.

Thanks for the help pvgool. I have taken the advice offered thus far and hope that somebody will be able to have a look at my site as some point in the future.

Thanks again for your time and help.

Kind regards

Terry

re: "multiple submissions"

I posted a query this morning and don't see it any where.

A couple of years ago I submitted a clients website I designed in the right category. I know it was the right category as she's a doll artist and a member of a national doll artists group and I submitted her to be included with all her colleagues.

The site never got listed or if it did it was removed, and because of this her website doesn't rank high at all. Here is my issue, I'm possibly losing this client due to my relying on dmoz.org to post a site that the editor never posted or did but took off for whatever reason, and I assumed all had been taken care of.

DMOZ editors complain of "mutiple submissions" but when one submits waits and waits doesn't see it listed one's inclined to re-submit possibly thinking their first submission never reached an editor, or an editor quit the category.

I am frustrated that editors come on board and state we don't understand what Dmoz is trying to do, or that the website was submitted in the wrong category, or whatever, I realize this is on a volunteer basis, but why offer a service if it's not really serving people if it's implied we did something wrong?

I'm thinking of manually submitting my clients website into the various search engines myself but am worried DMoz will see to it that her site is forever removed due to the fact I re-submitted her site this morning.

This has been a very frustrating exercise, to the point I'm wondering if it's appreciated by DMOZ that we are the ones helping them to build the largest directory online.

I am frustrated that editors come on board and state we don't understand what Dmoz is trying to do, or that the website was submitted in the wrong category, or whatever, I realize this is on a volunteer basis, but why offer a service if it's not really serving people if it's implied we did something wrong?

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I'm sorry to hear you are frustrated, but I'm afraid that will continue unless you understand that DMOZ is not offering a "service" to those who suggest websites.
In fact, DMOZ is not a listing service at all.

Editors build the directory in all sorts of ways, and find sites in all sorts of places. The suggestions made by people such as yourself are nothing more than one resource volunteers can use if they want to. There is no requirement for editors to even look at those suggestions, but no doubt someone will do so in time. We just have no idea who, or when.

I'm thinking of manually submitting my clients website into the various search engines myself

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That sounds like a very good idea, because there are many other directories which do indeed offer the service you require.

we are the ones helping them to build the largest directory online.

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Well, we certainly appreciate your assistance in adding to the pool of suggestions where editors can look for sites, but it is by no means the only resource, and it is the editors who do the actual building.

I am frustrated that editors come on board and state we don't understand what Dmoz is trying to do, or that the website was submitted in the wrong category, or whatever.

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Well, in this forum editors are constrained by the truth. And, if that's the problem, that's what you're going to hear.

why offer a service if it's not really serving people if it's implied we did something wrong?

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And ... that's the problem. You simply don't understand what DMOZ is trying to do. It's trying to provide a good list of sites to surfers. The surfers are the people that are being served. Everyone else involved--site suggestors, editors, AOL software developers-- we're ALL only giving service, not receiving it.

Anyone can help serve the surfers, by suggesting good sites. Anyone can offer to help serve other people, by doing the harder work of reviewing, categorizing, and describing sites--all for the surfers.

Would I like to see more work on websites related to the visual arts? Yes. Am I going to be one of them? Probably not, my knowledge and abilities lie in other directions. And, so far, what's true of me is true of nearly all the other 6 billion people in the world. That's life.

> A couple of years ago I submitted a clients website I designed in the right category.
It depends what a "couple of years ago is". If you suggested the site before december 2006 we might have lost the suggestion due to a crash of our servers at that time. You can suggest the site again
If you ave suggested the site in 2007 or later it is either still waiting review or rejected. There is no need to suggest the site again.


> and because of this her website doesn't rank high at all.
No that can not be the cause. I know of many websites that rank high in search engines but are not listed in DMOZ. I know of even much more sites that are listed in DMOZ and do not rank in search engines at all.

> I'm possibly losing this client due to my relying on dmoz.org to post a site
> that the editor never posted or did but took off for whatever reason, and I
> assumed all had been taken care of.
If ranking that site high in the search engines is what you promised to the client you haven't done your job properly. But don't blame us. Why did you rely on a group of people you don't know and that only maintain a directory as a hobby in their free time. Shouldn't you have done your job yourself and spend some money to accomplish your task.

> I am frustrated that editors come on board and state we don't understand
> what Dmoz is trying to do,
And from your posting I get the impression that you still do not understand.

> but why offer a service if it's not really serving people
Correct. But we don't offer a such a service. Seems you are complaining about something we don't provide.

> I'm thinking of manually submitting my clients website into the various
> search engines myself
Why didn't you do this before. If you want to accomplish a task you will have to work hard.
> but am worried DMoz will see to it that her site is forever removed due to
> the fact I re-submitted her site this morning.
DMOZ has no relation at all with other directories and search engines. So suggesting your site to them won't have any influence.
If you suggested the site only twice (or even a few times more) to DMOZ you won't be banned. But you might if you suggest it many times or if you suggest it to many different categories.


This has been a very frustrating exercise, to the point I'm wondering if it's appreciated by DMOZ that we are the ones helping them to build the largest directory online.[/QUOTE]

I have chosen the category very attentively. I checked it once again, having a look to similar websites lised in DMOZ.
Do you think this comparison is a good method?

Yes, that's a fairly good method.