Status of AtmScrip.com

I submitted a site, http://www.AtmScrip.com, to Business: Financial Services: Banking Services: Automatic Teller Machines a long time ago and it's still not listed.

What should I do now?
Should I re-submit?

In the future, please make sure you give a clickable link to the category you submitted -- it makes it easier to check on the submission. I see a submission date Jan. 12, 2003 waiting in http://dmoz.org/Business/Financial_Services/Banking_Services/Automatic_Teller_Machines/

>>What should I do now?

Continue to wait patiently. Don't resubmit as that won't help -- you already know the site reached us and is waiting. It's likely to be a while longer before the backlog in that category is dealt with (yours is by no means the oldest submission waiting). You can come back to this thread in a calendar month (or more -- I'd actually recommend you come back in 2 or 3 months) to get a status check.

OK, thanks.

I'll set myself a reminder to check back in a couple of months.

Wanted to check in on this submission. The one I made on Jan. 12, 2003 was actually the second submission I had made for this site. The previous submission was several months before that.

Any word yet on when this site is going to be listed?
It wouldn't take but a minute to list it.

It has only been two weeks since your last posting. Please wait at least one calendar month, as stated in motsa's post.

OK, sorry to bother you guys

>>It wouldn't take but a minute to list it<<

Same goes for any site not currently listed.

>It wouldn't take but a minute to list it. <

Wrong. After having listed several thousand sites, I still need approx. 6 minutes for each listing. Reviewing the complete site, writing a new description (99.9% of submitters do not care about our guidelines) and then publishing it.

>It wouldn't take but a minute to list it. <

If people ever get the impression that this forum is a way to request an immediate review for a site, the forum will become unusable for its intended purpose.

And for that reason I (like most active editors who respond here) simply don't ever review sites based on status requests.

Oh, frequently we'll work on a category because a status request directed our attention to it. And after everything else in the category is done, we won't necessarily refuse to review the site that raised the question. But a request here isn't and can't be a way of jumping forward even one slot in the unreviewed queue for a category.

Well, considering the category that this listing belong in doesn't have an editor, does consideration for this site have to wait for however long it takes to find an editor?

If so, how long is that going to take?
I figured there should be a supervisor somewhere that would eventually handle listings for categories with no editor. Seems like they could get to it quicker than 6 or 8 months.

I originally submitted this site sometime last summer.

It waits until someone volunteers to do it. And yes, that can be more than six months.

"Supervision" in this context involves making sure that people do a good job of what they volunteer to do. The military concept of volunteerism never really caught on here.

Note also that you're misunderstanding the purpose of the "suggest a URL" feature. It's not to force anyone to review it. It's to help reviewers find good sites, that's all. That you suggested a site doesn't even give it a priority over sites that weren't submitted at all!

Here's how one volunteer editor works. I currently have two other browser windows open. One is devoted to pushing legitimate site submittals past the spam filter. The other started out reviewing sites -- not, however, finding any that were appropriate for the topic. I ended up doing my own web searches for good content. I don't care how long those sites have been up, or when or even whether anyone ever submitted them anywhere. I'm finding good content, and I'm listing it.
Yesterday I also got involved in some categories mentioned in resource-zone. I deleted some egregious spam, redirected some obvious mislocated submittals, and tried to clean up a bit, so that next time an editor with local knowledge and interest visited, they wouldn't be put off by the mess.
And I'll stop editing today, just as I did yesterday, confident that I did a good job, even though there were several hundred thousand other submitted sites (and who knows how many unsubmitted sites!) I could have looked at, but didn't.

That's the way we work. Yes, we know some sites wait more than six months after being created, let alone being submitted. No, we don't know which ones they are, and if we did, we know it would not be good for the directory to make them a universal priority. (And, sigh, if we did, six months wouldn't get you near the top of _that_ queue, either!)

We get more work, and better work, from people working in their areas of interest and knowledge.

Thanks for shedding some light on what the process is.

This site is a good site for content. It's about cashless atm machines, which are becoming very popular.

Even if nobody buys anything from this site, there is plenty of good information on it about how cashless atm machines work so people can educate themselves on what they are, which will help them decide if this type of machine is right for them.

Thanks again

hutcheson's description was pretty good.

I am allowed to edit in another section of the directory. I do my edits from home because that way I can have two computers running simultaneously, each with two different browsers open (some sites won't come up with certain browsers). I also have a number of other editing tools open in the background.

I'm working through a large category that currently has almost 1,200 site awaiting review in several hundred subcategories. Each night I spend several hours editing, and hope to have added maybe 20 new sites to the directory. It took nearly three hundred edits and a lot of deletions in order to reduce the queue by about 100 sites.

Here is how I work. When I open a subcat with maybe 20 sites waiting on review, they are sorted in date order, oldest first. I resort the list by URL to eliminate duplicate or near-duplicate submissions. Then I resort and grab the sites that appear to have the best titles and descriptions (best meaning closest to the guidelines). I then attempt to open the site and verify that the contents match the description and title. No matter how well a description is written, I usually do some editing, either to add or remove material, or to take out the marketing hype. Then I open a different browser window and go looking for mirrors or affiliate sites. Then, and only then, do I publish a site. Time spent, six to ten minutes. Time spent deleting a site -- three to twenty minutes, since being careless in deleting a site is a significant breech of editing responsibility, I often double or triple check before hitting the delete. That is time lost, since I have reduced the queue by one site, but have not added anything to the directory.

I'll also tell you that as a human, rather than a 'bot, there are nights when I just can't stand the thought of wading through a large queue, so I pick off a bunch of subcats that have one to three sites waiting -- just to get a feeling of accomplishment.

I also (mostly invisibly) monitor this R-Z thread to see if there are any burning issues in the categories where I am allowed to edit. I keep an IRC chat window open where I can discuss editing issues and ask questions of other volunteer editors, and I try and keep up with the latest changes in the guidelines and editing tools. All told, I spend 20+ hours a week on ODP issues and have averaged about 100 newly published sites a week.

Complaining? Heck no. This stuff is fun! I just wish that I could quit my two paying jobs and do this full time.

Life is grand when you are an ODP editor. Everyone should try it.