Status of http://hemsell.com

Hello,
I filled out the submission form for my site, http://hemsell.com in the category
Regional > North America > United States > Texas > Localities > K > Kingwood > Business and Economy

It appeared to me as the most appropriate.
If anyone could supply a status on it I would be grateful.


TIA

Todd R Hemsell
 

thehelper

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The site is waiting and there is no backlog in that category. I noticed you just submitted yesterday, I would give it at least one month and if you are still not listed follow up on this thread.

BTW, if I enter hemsell.com I get a page not found error. Your full url works so I modified your submission to the full url.

Good Luck and hope this helps -
 

Thank you for checking, I am very grateful.
However I am concerned about my site not resolving to http://hemsell.com
Does that url not work for you?
What did you have to do to get to the website? add a www ?

Thanks again,


Todd Hemsell
 

Thanks,
That really gave me a scare because that is how i submitted it ;/images/dmoz/purplegrin.gif
 

thehelper

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You should apply to be the editor of that category. There is a possibility it could take a while. I edit in Houston and I know the metro areas are suffering without editors. Good news is we had Texas down to zero unreviewed earlier this year. The bad news is that lasted about a day /images/icons/smile.gif
 
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Its a little more complex than that. If one looks at the source of traffic to this site, its not actually about "Kingwood Computer & Network Support Specialists"

The counter on the front page shows me
http://extremetracking.com/open;ref2?login=hemhome
and looking at "all keywords" makes one wonder what is going on here :-(

A prize for the most plausible explanation "never realised that stuff was there", "must have been someone else put it there", "its a fair cop"
 

thehelper

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Its not directly linked so I don't see the problem here. The tracker could have been moved over as a temporary solution. I used my free trackers like that also.
 

hutcheson

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The "front page navigation" is seriously (ok then, totally) disfunctional.

So the relevant question is not so much "when will this site be reviewed" but "how long will it spend in the queue before being deleted for being completely broken?"
 

thehelper

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Oh my, I guess you can tell I did not do much clicking around /images/icons/smile.gif Hutcheson is absolutely correct.
 

Just alittle FYI, the three typical reason why a URL will work sometimes with the WWW, and sometimes without could be due to three main causes.

1.) Most Common - The site is new and has not fully propogated through DNS. (if your site is new give it time, on average 72 hours is the min. necessity, but i have seen this take longer)

2.) Common - A misconfiguration on the NS1 or NS2 zones for the server itself. (Nothing you can do here, but report it to your server administrator, unless you are the admin)

3.) Rare - the server has been setup for name based hosting, not IP based. Not that that is a problem, but if something goes wrong in the bind, you get this exact issue.(Again nothing you can do here, but report it to your server administrator, unless you are the admin) <-- I've seen this on verio servers.

There are other reasons, but typically one of these three or a combo will fix the issue.

Good Luck. If i can help you any further let me know.
 

giz

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Sometimes http://hemsell.com works and sometimes it doesn't, on a fairly random basis. Really odd.

However when you do get there, most of the navigation doesn't seem to work as stated before.

The source code for the page is also broken. Kingwood Computer wrote it, and claim to be Networking Support Specialists, but they certainly can't write valid HTML coding either: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhemsell.com&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=HTML+4.01+Transitional Ugh!
 

Now that I have been thoroughly bashed let me respond to a few things.

First of all the reason my site is not resolving as often as it should is that I am using granitecanyon as a free nameserver and it does not work very well.
ns1.hemsell.net is the same server as my site hemsell.com is on and it does reply 100% of the time, one nameserver is not sufficient on the internet though. NetSol required me to list two of them.
Second of all my site was for a long time just a "play and learn" are for my own personal use. I still have some of the content I had on it before, mostly pictures.
the are located at hemsell.com/pictures
I took the links to them and the links to my other 2 urls down (I left the pictures up because a few ppl still visit the site and like it).
I changed the site and now intend to try and drum up some business repairing computers. The old pictures are no longer appropriate content to link to from the main page.

I Have NEVER tried to make money from the site before.

I have never (previously) submitted the site to ODP as a picture site nor anything else.
It is now truly a website advertising my computer repair services and I submitted it as such.

HTML coding is not the same thing as repairing hardware and operating system issues.
I do not, nor do I advertise as doing webdesign.

additionally google cache does not affect the dns issues.

All of the links on the Main (index) page are functional and do point to other pages.
The links in the Resources, Examples, and Other Stuff sections point to developed and functional content.
Of the 7 links in the Services section:
3 point to valid, but not very well developed content, and 4 point to pages that I am at a complete loss of words for.

I made my site from structure, then tried to flesh it out with writing.
I have not written very much, but did not submit it into a category that really required much more than being (trying to be) a local business.

As far as the kind suggestion I received to apply as editor of the category, I think that would be a conflict of interest and would like to avoid that accusation.
At one point in time I became interested in editing a category in the Directory, but after reading postings and discussions about it on the internet, decided that I did not want to subject myself to the types of abuse and accusations that i saw about other people that were trying to contribute.
Additionally I could not think of very good desciptions for the websites I thought needed to be added, just as I am having difficulty writing stuff for my own site.

I work full time troubleshooting computers and rely on a few very relevant websites for information. none of those sites are in the directory and I thought they should be.
But quite honestly it was not worth submitting myself to abuse to get them in there.

I welcome all constructive criticism, but the implication that I am somehow trying to scam someone, I really resent that.
That is precisely the type of person and attitude that made me withdraw from applying to be an editor.
I realize you guys do get scammed quite a bit, but a person deserves the benefit of doubt before castigating him publicly.

I hope you all have a nice week,


Todd Hemsell
 

Please note the date on this post on the google forum pre-dates anything I put on here.
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&c2coff=1&safe=off&threadm=c4cc2b8c.0207261055.98923da%40posting.google.com&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF8%26safe%3Doff%26group%3Dgoogle.public.support.general

In It i pretty clearly state that I just re-worked the site.

Also, If you want to see the complete history of any site I would suggest the web archive over google's cache any day.
http://web.archive.org/web/*/hemsell.com
there you can see all versions of any site. the asterics dentone when the modified date changed on the file.


Todd
 

Hi,

I just wanted to clear something up: only the people with Editor, Editall, or Meta in their member titles are actually ODP editors. Some members of the public joined originally with questions and then stayed around to troll, but they're irrelevant.

It *is* important to have your site working properly, and to make sure your server is performing as it should.
 

thehelper

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When your site is finished and ready to go resubmit. Your current submission was rejected for lack of content. This rejection should not prevent you from getting a fair review when you decide to submit again.

Hope this helps -
 

apeuro

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...Some members of the public joined originally with questions and then stayed around to troll, but they're irrelevant.

Please try to avoid making overtly broad generalizations such as these. We value the contributions of everyone that posts here - whether they are ODP editors or not. Editors don't have a monopoly on knowing how the ODP works, and we are quite fortunate to have some non-editor members who care enough to share their knowledge with us - they are certainly not irrelevant.

That being said there are trolls but they are easily spotted. Although, I haven't seen any instances of trolling in this thread.
 

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Todd, if you want some help with your site, leave me a private message. I'm not an ODP editor but I do understand the guidelines for getting listed and I've developed and managed several business Web sites.

Your site just needs a little tweaking, then it will be good to go!
 
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