Status of http://ultimatewasher.com

Please let me know the status of ultimatewasher.com. It was submitted almost two months ago.

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Ultimatewasher.com Status

I submitted to: http://dmoz.org/Business/Industrial...nd_Tools/Cleaning_Equipment/Pressure_Washers/

Please let me know the status.

--Regards,

http://ultimatewasher.com - Posting Status

I submitted http://ultimatewasher.com to http://dmoz.org/Business/Industrial...nd_Tools/Cleaning_Equipment/Pressure_Washers/ a couple of months ago. Can anyone please tell me the status?

The site is there, awaiting review.

ultimatewasher.com - Update Please

It's been over a month since the last update. Could someone please look into this for me. Thanks,

You are next eligible for a status update on November 10, sorry we changed the time guideline for doing so.

Status of Ultimatewasher.com 8 months waiting

I submitted http://ultimatewasher.com to http://dmoz.org/Business/Industrial...essure_Washers/ in March, 2004. Can anyone please tell me the status?

No change, still waiting review there.

What is a reasonable amount of time to wait?

It's been over 9 months now since we posted our site to DMOZ. I really don't wish to keep asking the question and bugging everyone but I'd like to know when can we expect our site to be listed? What is a reasonable amount of time to wait for posting?

Is the editor too busy? Can someone step in and look at this category? I don't see much movement on the category at all. Is there anything I can do to help this process along?

Thanks, in advance for your response.

You might think this is rude, but simply making this post is in effect bugging us, that's why there is a six month rule. And we also have FAQ page, that would answer your questions.

So the reasonable time for wait is .. don't wait for anything. Get on with marketing your site, get other people to link to it, improve the site, etc. You should be so busy doing that, that you forget to come back in six months and check because you realize those other things are more important.

Your site is waiting to be reviewed -- there is nothing else you can do, it may never be reviewed, it may be reviewed and refused.

Hmmmm

I am sensing a bit of tension in the previous post. Is this the official policy of DMOZ or would someone else like to share some insight?

BTW, we are extremely busy trying to improve the site, add products, gather inbound links, update our PPC advertising, search for banner ads, write free articles and press releases, provide customer service, AND submit and follow up with directories and search engines.

As stressful as this is, we always try to be courteous to everyone we deal with.

Is this the official policy of DMOZ

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You might like to read this forum's FAQ which should answer this and many other questions.

Thank you for the response

I have read the FAQs and understand DMOZ's policy. Basically, this is an all-volunteer organization and because of that, DMOZ does not impose strict timelines on their editors. That is perfectly understandable.

The reality is that a good majority of DMOZ's editors are hard working benevolent, and charitable people. However, some editors are overwhelmed. They may have signed up with the best of intentions but now find themselves unable to keep up with the avalanche of growth on the web.

DMOZ's own description says, "The small paid editorial staffs at commercial directory sites can't keep up with submissions, and the quality and comprehensiveness of their directories has suffered. Link rot is setting in and they can't keep pace with the growth of the Internet."

Isn't that what is happening in certain sections of DMOZ? I understand how tough it must be to be a DMOZ editor. You do a lot of work in your free time and give up freedom to help the Internet at large. Then at the end of the day, it appears that few people appreciate your work and others, like me, complain about the process.

Because of its structure, DMOZ is, of course, free to do whatever it thinks is best. In a free market, eventually, the web would decide if the site would continue or not. Unfortunately, DMOZ is made to be very relevant because it has a significant impact on the rankings at Google. That is why so many applicants and I are so frustrated with the process. At the end of the day, after we have worked so hard to create valuable content and worthwhile destinations, we've gathered inbound links and done everything else necessary to get noticed, we occasionally see an equal or inferior competitor rise to the top of the Google pages simply out of luck because they happened to have submitted their sites to DMOZ during a period when an editor had the time and inclination to visit their site.

Is it fair? I guess it is. But ask yourself this question; would you buy from a company whose official policy stated they would ship your product within 2 minutes or 2 years?

would you buy from a company whose official policy stated they would ship your product within 2 minutes or 2 years?

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Nope, not in a million years.
But.....
Webmasters are not our customers, if anything they might be considered as one type of supplier.

The people who use the directory and our data users are the closest things to your concept of customers in this sense, and they get their product free.

it has a significant impact on the rankings at Google

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Old wives tale. I mean it does help pagerank, but no more than any other inbound link. Anything else is unsubstantiated speculation.

Link rot is setting in and they can't keep pace with the growth of the Internet

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We're pretty good at keeping on top of link rot in terms of sites being taken offline or changing address. Link decay in terms of content change, whether by bait and switch, information becoming dated, or simply content change by the owner over time, does get by us to an extent. We do have internal measures, and there is a thread in the Abuse Reporting part of this forum to let us know of these quality issues. Everone can help, whether editor or no with this part of the job.
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Actually I was trying to explain something and gave you the long explanation. I was debating between that, and the plain facts answer which would have been:

Please read the guidelines for this forum, and wait at least six months before asking again in this thread.

But ask yourself this question; would you buy from a company whose official policy stated they would ship your product within 2 minutes or 2 years?

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Of course not, but would I spend fifteen minutes of my time [with no dollar cost] dealing with a company on the offchance it would improve my business - of course I would. But I would not spend the next year complaining about it.

We are not selling anything. DMOZ is not a commercial enterprise, we do not operate on that principle - so no comparison can be made. We offer you a chance to suggest your site, but we do not promise to list it, and we are not a service for webmasters

Although it may seem as if I've been complaining for a year, I've actually been quite busy doing other things as well in between. I've probably only spent about 15 minutes complaining over the course of a year ;-)

Which reminds me of the joke about the Monk who joins a monastery and takes a vow of silence. Each year he is only allowed to say two words. Well the first year goes by and when he meets with the head monk, he says "Food Bad." The second year goes by and when he speaks he says "Bed Lumpy."

Finally, the third year goes by and he says "I quit." The head monk replies "I'm not surprised, you've done nothing but complain since you got here."

This kind of reminds me of the 6 month vow of silence webmasters take when submitting to DMOZ. At the end of the 6 months all you hear is complaints.

As for your last point, I would imagine that submissions are a valuable and convenient tool for editors. Without them, the job of finding great websites to list would be much harder. Where would you find them -- Google perhaps? Without a link from DMOZ, you're unlikely to find the site in Google.

I understand your desire to minimize the perceived impact of submissions but I have to believe you'd miss them if DMOZ discontinued them. DMOZ may not be a service for webmasters, but where would DMOZ be without webmasters and creators?

I think Gimmster's point about the users of the database are the real customer is very valid but the question remains the same. Would you use a directory that hadn't been updated in over two years?

Perhaps DMOZ's impact on Google is an old wives tale, but strong circumstantial evidence suggests it is not. If you are interested, I would be happy to provide that evidence to you offline. I don't want to give website examples in public and further exacerbate the problem and speculation. Besides, Google itself recommends that people submit to DMOZ to get a better ranking.

It seams to me that the automated functions of DMOZ (link checking, etc.) work well, but the human aspect of verifying content can be time consuming and labor intensive.

Nice post

I'm not surprised, you've done nothing but complain since you got here. LOL

>>As for your last point, I would imagine that submissions are a valuable and convenient tool for editors. Without them, the job of finding great websites to list would be much harder. Where would you find them -- Google perhaps?

trade publications, bumper stickers, business cards, billboards, flyers, rack cards, brochures, radio, television, search engines, niche directories, links pages, newspapers and inserts, magazines, books, graffiti, direct mail ads, friends, signs, window displays, programs, bulletin boards, classified ads, visitor/tourist publications, chamber of commerce, local business associations, sports venues, cultural events, telephone directories, ezines, matchbook covers, receipts, commercial packaging, catalogs, shuttle buses, taxi cabs, etc.

Many categories have been created as a result of an editors initiative without a single suggestion. http://dmoz.org/Regional/Asia/Science_and_Environment/South-Asian_Earthquake_and_Tsunamis_2004/

You forgot skywriting, blogs, telemarketers, sandwich boards, smoke signals, and tattoos.

At the end of the day, I'm willing to bet that the Tsunami editor relied more heavily on Google than any other form you listed. The point is that it would be harder, not impossible, without submissions.