Status of http://www.chelseaandcompany.com

michelegarris

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Hello,
Thanks for your fast reply. I have a question, my site content has changed alot since I've submitted to ODP. I don't have any affiliate sites. Can I resubmit, or is it automatically going to be rejected again? Also, should I submit to regional Pittsburgh, PA instead? Can I submit to both?
Thanks,
Michele
 

thehelper

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It will most likely get rejected again and there is really no point in submitting Regionally either. The same thing will likely happen. Sorry.
 

michelegarris

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Sorry, but I have a whole new site, have no affiliates at all. That is not fair. Is there any way to convey this to the submission editor?
Michele
 

lachenm

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You may not have affilate links, but we still consider your business to be a reseller, so it is unable to be listed under our guidelines.
 

michelegarris

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Hello,
In regards to your last response: "You may not have affilate links, but we still consider your business to be a reseller, so it is unable to be listed under our guidelines."

After checking most of the gift basket web sites that are listed at DMOZ, I find that they are RESELLERS of the EXACT SAME BASKETS that I list on my site. In addition, the main theme of my website is "Custom" baskets. The basket on the main page is custom hand made by me and so are a majority of the other baskets. These other baskets that you consider "resellers" are only a small percentage of my company to give people more variety.

I also offer the customer a special service where I will go out and purchase whatever they want for their gift and incorporate it into a gift basket. I feel this is a unique service.

If it is against your policy to have anything resold, I can supply you with the websites of hundreds of gift baskets that resell the same items. If that is your rule, please take these sites off DMOZ.

Some "resellers" as you call them:
www.alyssagiftbaskets.com
www.ashlanegiftbaskets.com
www.basketsofdistinctiononline.com
www.beyondgifts.com
www.basket-creations.com
www.basketstogo.com
www.gracebaskets.com
www.4thstreetplaza.com

This in only a small percentage. I started with the A's as you can see.
Please advise.
THanks,
Michele
 

lachenm

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I'd like to start by mentioning that the Forum Guidelines state that site analysis is inappropriate in this forum. They also mention that "rejected, and not likely to be included" is a reasonable status.

I won't analyze your site, but I will make some general comments. You may well have unique content -- I don't know. If you do, and if you want your site to be listed, a good strategy would be to make your unique content obvious. We can't look at every product of every site, hoping that one of them happens to be unique.

Suppose a hypothetical editor were to check 5 products on a hypothetical site that didn't make any obvious distinction between unique and resold products. Without looking very hard, suppose he or she could see that 4 of the products were being resold. If an editor finds a hit rate like that, is he or she going to think that the 5th basket is unique, or that just a little more searching would show that it wasn't? Generally, unless we're given a very strong reason to think otherwise, we'll assume that if a site is reselling most of its products, it will be like the 99% of other resellers who don't offer anything unique. Is that fair?. I don't know, but as in most areas of life, it pays to be careful about one's associations.

Now, as for the fact that some resellers slip in: it's true, some do. There can be many reasons for that. However, we are not going to invalidate the policy just because some sites slip through. If you read about someone who gets away with robbing a bank, do you expect the bank to suddenly start giving out cash to anyone who demands it, just to be "fair"? Pointing to other sites that violate our guidelines will not result in a listing.

Finally, thank you for the list of sites, although this is also not an appropriate forum for listing sites that potentially violate our guidelines (it would be better to submit "update URL" requests for those sites, and note their affiliations, or to contact an appropriate editall or meta editor by editor feedback or PM). I expect that an editor will evaluate those sites very soon.
 

michelegarris

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I really appreciate your feedback. I am just very frustrated.

I have a good site with a unique service and gift baskets with products that I don't see anyone else offer (Dirty Girl bath items, Antique Garden candles), and I see all of these sites that have nothing but the "reseller" baskets get in and it is disheartening.

At this point, what do you suggest? Should I start all over and get a new domain name?

Is my site going to be flagged to "never be listed" on ODP because I have a small amt. of reseller baskets?

SHould I resubmit?
Please advise.
Regards,
Michele
 

hutcheson

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If your unique services are not prominently featured, then it isn't a "good site": and yes, absolutely, site design so poor that the unique content isn't visible or distinguishable can keep the site from ever being listed.

On the other hand, clearly identifying the source of all products, and making sure that visitors can find the unique content will make the site much more likely to be listed.
 

michelegarris

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Hi,
Sorry for another post, but as for my question in my last post: Should I make changes and re-submit,or am I wasting my time, or resubmit with a new domain name?
Thanks again,
Michele :crazy:
 

hutcheson

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Only you know whether you have genuinely unique content. If you do, and the editor can find it being distracted by the cookie-cutter bits, then it is reasonable to hope for a listing.
 
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