Status of http://www.johnkennard.com/Tuw/Tuwtp.html

shadow575

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The site was incommunicado over the last week due to web-hosting problems, but everything should be and seems to be OK now

Uhmmm it might still be incommunicado. I don't edit there but simply clicking on the website link you give brings up no content??

I get:
1 title screen upon mousing around it, found the link hidden in the title which takes me to a blank screen with 1 phrase near the bottom
"A moralist tract" which is also a hidden link to.....nothing?

I checked it with IE and Firefox same results.

Again, I do not edit in this category. I was just taking a look at your site and expressing my observations.
 

JDK

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shadow575 said:
Uhmmm it might still be incommunicado. I don't edit there but simply clicking on the website link you give brings up no content??

I get:
1 title screen upon mousing around it, found the link hidden in the title which takes me to a blank screen with 1 phrase near the bottom
"A moralist tract" which is also a hidden link to.....nothing?

I checked it with IE and Firefox same results.

Again, I do not edit in this category. I was just taking a look at your site and expressing my observations.

Hmm, I use both IE and Firebird, and just tried it with Firebird, and have no such problem.

It is indeed click-on-text throughout, navigation-wise (with extra navigational links at the bottoms of the pages, as well as a link-index).

Clicking on the brief description "A moralist tract." should take you to the copyright page with a single-line copyright notice, and clicking on the copyright notice should take you to the epitome (preludial and thematic quote), and clicking on the epitome should take you to Chapter 1, and so on.

What I suspect is that you're not using full-page viewing and thus missed not only the "Full Page Viewing Recommended" warning on the title page (my fault, if so--I've been afraid that I need to raise it closer to the book title, to help with shorter browser windows), but also the copyright notice following the brief description--in other words, it's a scroll beneath the first-presented page bottom that you're seeing.

JDK
 

shadow575

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My apologies. I was not familiar with the click-text-design and wasn't expecting it. It does in fact work for me now too.

Sorry for the confusion on my part.

Again, I don't edit in this area so I am no help to you in regards to the submission request. Someone will come along and give you your needed status update.

Thanks again for setting me straight.
 

donwiebe

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I ca'n't find a submission for that URL in that category, and there is no record of it having been reviewed. Please feel free to resubmit the site, once, to the most appropriate category, and then return here in a month for another status update.
 

JDK

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A simple reassuring "in queue and awaiting review" and I'll go away for six months, or even, if the web-book is included during that time, forever . . . .

JDK
 

JakeCop

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I see you're talking to yourself as well, I think they're all gone. We're on some kind of ghost site. I claim salvage rights!
 

hutcheson

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I checked the site also -- Mozilla, and I even accepted the arrogant demand to switch to full screen. It still didn't work. I'd have deleted it for being disfunctional, and I would regard it as being disfunctional. The best luck you could have with a listing is a note saying ["will not work on some standard browsers and screens"]

Look, man, it is absolutely trivial to create HTML that will display text at whatever font size the user wants, in whatever window size the user wants. There's no excuse not to -- you're cutting off your audience to spite your web developer. Why? WHY?
 

JDK

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JakeCop said:
I see you're talking to yourself as well, I think they're all gone. We're on some kind of ghost site. I claim salvage rights!

I say we fake an election and take over.

JDK
 

JDK

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hutcheson said:
I checked the site also -- Mozilla, and I even accepted the arrogant demand to switch to full screen. It still didn't work. I'd have deleted it for being disfunctional, and I would regard it as being disfunctional. The best luck you could have with a listing is a note saying ["will not work on some standard browsers and screens"]

Look, man, it is absolutely trivial to create HTML that will display text at whatever font size the user wants, in whatever window size the user wants. There's no excuse not to -- you're cutting off your audience to spite your web developer. Why? WHY?

I am totally baffled by all this distress and even anger over a perfectly simple and intuitive click-on-text design, which works perfectly with IE (God help us) and Firebird.

Others, including a couple of directory staffs, have had no such difficulty, and the only other example of this that I know of was apparently a minor, and frankly I was a little thankful for that.

And full-screen viewing was and is _recommended_, for the easiest and smoothest reading experience, not "arrogantly demanded".

But I give up. Do what you (plural) want, which is what you're going to do anyway.

Just don't pretend it's because you can't operate or read the book, or because it's too hard.

I'm out of here.

JDK
 

hutcheson

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I think, unless you are henceforthward much more careful (and manage to suborn the media to hide your prior record as well), they'll have no trouble recognizing which side of the moral ground you're on.
 

bobrat

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It's not distress and anger. It's just you have an very non-standard way of linking, that's not-intuative, and not very user friendly.Unless you happen to notice the text is clickable, many would assume it's a single page that goes nowhere. Since we try to list sites that are helpfull to the end user, then no editor would be faulted for not listing the site.

Personally I would have deleted the site if I reviewed it.

The comments were to help you and point out the problems you have created.
 
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