Status of http://www.supportcave.com

Please let me know the status of http://www.supportcave.com,
submitted to

1.http://dmoz.org/Computers/Security/Malicious_Software/Spyware_and_Adware/Products_and_Tools/

It was orginally submitted several months ago,
It was in jan or may this yr

thanx for your time.

Your site suggestion from 18/Apr/2004 is waiting for review. If you haven't seen it listed within 6 months, you are welcome back for a new status report on or after Feb 22.

WOW thanx for the fast reply

i take it either
1. that group has a ton of submissions or
2. thier are no or not enough editors

that would why its still waiting

u said
"If you haven't seen it listed within 6 months, you are welcome back for a new status report on or after Feb 22"

sorry im not 2 sure what this means
i wait 6 months after my 18/Apr/2004 date.
is this correct?

Ic thanx for clearing that up

Hi, i was added to the DMOZ
in dec 2004

Now im gone cant find my site
google toolbar no longer shows it
firefox ext no longer shows im in the DMOZ
http://dmoz.org/Computers/Security/...yware_and_Adware/Detection_and_Removal_Tools/
does not show my site
and the page has no PR last time i checked it has a PR of 4
was it moved? or did it change?

plz help whats going on?

It was reviewed again recently and an editor decided it should no longer be included, as the content is not unique

Well what can i do about this
can i get a 2nd opinion

as i work hard building the site.
looking at those sites,
yes i dont sell my own product so maybe i could be moved to a different page?
as my site is about spyware removal and i offer mostly free removal tools

If the products are not your own, does the owner sell them on the net also? (That's what we mean by "non-unique content")

If you offer free removal tools, are they also offered elsewhere on the net?

Is there anything unique that YOU offer?

Is it clear to a surfer what's unique on the site?

If you're just hoping that of, say, a hundred products the editor will happen on the one that's unique before giving up in disgust (which happens after several items offered turn out NOT to be unique), then you're just gunning to be considered derivative/agglomerated spam.

There's nothing inherently wrong with an agglomerated-content site. But ... just accumulating content that's already available elsewhere has no value for us. A successful AC site must have a core of unique content -- and then it will attract contributions to make it more comprehensive. Without that core, surfers are better off if you pull the plug on that site, and instead focus on contributing to some other site that already has such a core.

If the products are not your own, does the owner sell them on the net also? (That's what we mean by "non-unique content")

Yes the owner does have them listed and some are sold via thier websites
im looking at
http://dmoz.org/Computers/Security/Malicious_Software/Spyware_and_Adware/
and i see websites that if could be compaired to
my site offer removal tools & help with spyware, i also have a forum with more help and where people can post questions or get removal help
Im am looking at way to expand and offer more services to my site visitors,
My site does offer more than just spyware removal, im currently expanding my other man sections of the site

If you offer free removal tools, are they also offered elsewhere on the net?

See answer above..

Is there anything unique that YOU offer?

See answer above..

Is it clear to a surfer what's unique on the site?

Yes, the site was designed by me from the ground up.. its not a clone or even a template.. I have spent HRS working on the design and layout
and will continue to do so, to improve the user experience.

If you're just hoping that of, say, a hundred products the editor will happen on the one that's unique before giving up in disgust (which happens after several items offered turn out NOT to be unique), then you're just gunning to be considered derivative/agglomerated spam.

Well ive seen spam site and I don’t consider my site spam or have spam content
to me this is a spam site
searched for spyware on yahoo
position 15
www.samarainternet.ru/spyware then forwards to
http://se59.info/search.php?aid=36815&q=$keyword
or on yahoo for spyware removal
position 21
http://spyware.qseek.info/free-spyware-removal

There's nothing inherently wrong with an agglomerated-content site. But ... just accumulating content that's already available elsewhere has no value for us. A successful AC site must have a core of unique content -- and then it will attract contributions to make it more comprehensive. Without that core, surfers are better off if you pull the plug on that site, and instead focus on contributing to some other site that already has such a core

Well I kind of get the idea or what u mean with agglomerated-content
but ive never seen that term before..

And what changed in dec/nov last yr. my site was good enough
now its not.. has the DMOZ standard changed, my site hasn't changed,
has the editor changed and their interruption is different than the editor who approved my site last yr.

thank your for your time
Jason

And what changed in dec/nov last yr. my site was good enough
now its not.. has the DMOZ standard changed, my site hasn't changed,
has the editor changed and their interruption is different than the editor who approved my site last yr.

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The site was reviewed again as part of routine quality control and the original decision to list was reversed. If the content hadn't changed then the original listing was probably an error by the looks of it. But standards do change and the bar is being raised ever higher. If you don't keep up then there is always a risk a listed site may be delisted. Pack it full of original not-found-anywhere-else content and we'll happily consider it again.

Hi, im trying to understand this
i look at these sites

http://people.aero.und.edu/~ewondras/
http://www.cexx.org/adware.htm
http://www.doxdesk.com/
http://www.geocities.com/spywarekilla/
http://www.spywareinfo.com/

in this section
http://dmoz.org/Computers/Security/Malicious_Software/Spyware_and_Adware/

and thier all similar to mine..

all provide programs, info , support so their not unique either..

If you think sites have been listed that don't meet our guidelines then there is a thread on this board for reporting them - within the new Quality Control section.

There are all sorts of reasons why sites that may appear to be similar to yours might be listed - added a very long time ago and were different then, an error, they do contain info or a download that is unique that you've missed, to name but a few possibilities. The point is that it has no bearing whatsoever on the listability of your own site - don't try to understand it, it simply is. Two wrongs don't make a right etc. and see my first comment for the solution to that one. Also once we have one or two comprehensive sites on any particular topic, more of the exact same is of no use to us or our users - each site should offer something different or the user might as well have used a search engine. If X and Y have identical content and we review X first then Y is rejected. If X has miles more content and Y doesn't add to that then Y is rejected.

oneeye,
thanks.. i will work on adding unique content

and i dont want to report any sites or get them booted
that was not my point

thanks for your time

Just to defend some of the sites you mentioned

http://www.spywareinfo.com/ is one of the highest traffic spyware help forums out there. Its spyware removal advice forum has: 31,277 posts in it - I'd say there are a lot of people out there who would therefore disagree with your assessment of its worth.

http://www.doxdesk.com/ has its own parasite database (i.e. not one copied from another site) and its own list of rogue products.

We welcome people who point out poor quality listed sites to us - but you included anti spyware resources that are (to my knowledge) highly regarded in your list. And considering both that, and the fact that you run a site in the same area, your suggestions appear less than objective.

Kind Regards,

Andy

Andy,
my intension was not to say those sites are poor
i was simply saying my site was similar to them..
Sorry if it come out that way

they are great sites and have used them many times, and still read them monthly.