Status of http://www.whydowork.com

rivi2k

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Greetings,

In late may I had submitted a site to the category, "Business:Small Business: Home Office" as it is a "resource-based sites containing advice, information, or online tools for setting up and effectively managing a home office." We also are in the works of providing job listings, however resources is our main area of service.

I was just wanting to check up on its status. The site was previously listed in the Recreation: Humor: Job-Related category, and after talking with the editor there, he said it had been removed from there due to content change but I should check here about the status.

So whenever you get a chance let me know!

url: whydowork.com
new category: Business:Small Business:Home Office

Thanks very much! :)
 

hutcheson

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It does not appear to be waiting there. It was rejected multiple times (having been SUBMITTED multiple times) while it was still "coming soon" -- a solecism not likely to be appreciated by hard-working editors.

You can submit again, but I can tell you, if I saw a site submittal with multiple submittals deleted last month for that reason, I might well assume it was another blamed vaporware spam -- and delete unreviewed.

If I were you, I'd let the odor dissipate for several months, and then resubmit. If I saw a site submitted, say, six months after a flurry of "coming soon -- whacking now" edits, I'd at least entertain the possibility that it might have actually come in the meantime.
 

rivi2k

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Not making sense....

I am unsure as to who would have submitted my company site? Is it possible to submit someone elses site? If so, would not many webmasters simply submit their competitors multiple times?
(to put them in the position i am now! :mad: )

Any thoughts on this?

Thanks again :)
 

hutcheson

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More generally: there are a lot of submitters (dozens daily) who either don't read the submittal policy, or who place their faith in the mythical average review time, and their ability to manipulate it to their own advantage.

We also have dealt with malicious submitters, but they are fairly rare, as will be obvious from a moment's thought. There are thousands of competitors, hundreds of them already listed -- what's the percentage in trying to hobble a competitor that DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A WEBSITE UP YET, let alone a listing? Tell it to the marines!

Our usual rule is "don't attribute to malice what is explicable in terms of stupidity." And punishing abusive spammers isn't a part of our job. We're trying to build a directory. The submittal policies don't just tell you the way to help us most efficiently; they tell you the way to suggest a site most effectively.
 

rivi2k

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thanks...

Thanks for the info, im not sure who would take it upon themselves to submit the site.
The process I went through was supposed to be simply an update, since my site was already listed. If i search for it on dmoz it still exists, but its not listed in any category? Any insight as to what is causing that?


Sorry for being such a pest :monacle:

Thanks again!
 

hutcheson

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Search is out of date (as it usually is.) What you see on the public directory page is usually fresher, maybe only a few minutes or days old.
 

rivi2k

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unsure as to what action to take...

Waiting 6 months doesnt seem like a viable solution to me.

On the page help center site search page it claims "Sites are not deleted arbitrarily

With the following reasons for deletion listed;
"URL is a dead link, and a new or alternate URL can not be found
The content of the site has been significantly enhanced, and is in the process of being reclassified into another category
The site has been significantly striped of content, and may be under review and reconsideration for listing.
The site is being reclassified as a result of a category reorganization, or because the site is better placed in another section of the directory.
The site doesn't comply with our site listing guidelines." (all of which mine comply with)

Seems to me like there is a direct violation of ODP's own policies. My site was listed in Recreation:Humor:Job Related. The content was significantly enhanced, and the site was deleted without being added to another category? I would have rather stayed in the incorrect category than deal with this headache.

Any additional advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again!
 

hutcheson

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The deletion of the site is in fact justified by the fourth rule in the list that you quoted. No arbitrary editorial action or editor abuse was involved -- if that's any consolation.

On the other hand, knowingly keeping the site listed in a category for which it was no longer appropriate, WOULD have been editor abuse.

There are few enough options: perhaps the most important perceptual shift is to realize that even if there is a common interest between your site and the directory, editors may not and should not share your feeling of urgency -- that is something for which you'll have to look elsewhere for supportive action.
 
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