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kokopeli

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which shopping category? Please provide a clickable link.
 

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Please give a clickable link to the exact category you submitted the site to. You wouldn't have been able to submit the site to the top level Shopping category so you must have submitted to one of the subcategories -- we need to know the exact subcategory (in clickable format like http://dmoz.org/Shopping ).
 
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sorry about the trouble, but I submitted the site under one of the categories in the shopping catergory, I don't remember exactly. I currently use hitbox to track where my visitors come from and editors from dmoz seem to come from this form to my site http://forums.dmoz.org/forum/threaddisplay.cgi?t=Forum15/HTML/000989.html. if you guys have access, you would probably see what is going on with my site. Thank you again for your help.
 

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There are thousands of categories under Shopping. If you can't be more specific than that, we can't give you a specific answer.
 

kokopeli

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The link you gave is NOT a clickable link to the category you submitted it, it is a clickable link to a forum discussion where your site came up. Several editors visited your site when it was noticed that much of your content was duplicated on several other unrelated sites.

Your site is an affiliate of http://www.ezdropship.com/ and cannot be listed as it does not contain unique content.
 
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I am not affliated with that site nor do i get my products from that site. A lot of the products I do sell are found on that site too. If you will notice on my site, I sell electronics at low prices and what ever electronic I can get that is cheap is going to be sold on my site. So could you please tell me how I can get listed then.
 

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In order to be listed you must offer unique content. The products you sell are on a large number of other sites and which are turned down for the same reason--offering nothing unique. There is nothing we can do, sorry.
 
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I also have a computer section which I will be updating soon. And the computers that I am going to be selling have nothing to do with dropshipping. The question I wanted to ask you is does that mean for every person that has something like someone else, you wont add the site? I know a lot of sites which have the same content and are listed on your database. Another question I have is, why was my site listed in your database for a like a week then removed?
 

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I also have a computer section which I will be updating soon. And the computers that I am going to be selling have nothing to do with dropshipping. The question I wanted to ask you is does that mean for every person that has something like someone else, you wont add the site?
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We look for unique content. If you have a bunch of item X which is everywhere, and a little of item Z which is not found everywhere then the majority of your content is still not unique. It really does depend. Also, you won't find an editor spending 3 hours comparing a bunch of sites to see if a few of your products are indeed unique.

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Another question I have is, why was my site listed in your database for a like a week then removed
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It was listed...the editor who listed it emailed me to ask if I could verify that it was an affiliate and I couldn't. I then ran into several other sites with the same content which led me to realize your content wasn't unique. It was then I who removed your listing for lack of unique content.

There are many variables, and we try to not list sites selling non-unique content. Because we are human, sometimes it does happen and as soon as we are aware that is corrected--such as the case was with your site. Also, in the case of ezdropship.com it isn't just a few sites either...it is a LOT of sites. If products such as yours is what you are speaking of and you are aware of some sites listed, by all means email me the urls and I will check into it.
 
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I understand that you say a lot of the content on my site is like the contents on other sites. But then does that mean everyone who sells jvc camera is not entitled to be listed or anyone who sells microsoft products is not entitled to be list. How about people who have almost exact content for games like Counter Strike, does that mean they can't be listed. If you want I can give you so many sites on your database which have so many contents a like. Products are products, what makes an online store different is how much they sell the product for. Most electronic stores sells same electronic things but they are different. Then why am i am being discarded?
 
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and to just add on to that reply, I am in no way affliated with the site you have mentioned. Call them or email them and see if I am affliated with them
 

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There is no point in arguing about whether or not you are getting your products from ezdropship.com. It doesn't make any differeince if you are getting products from them or if maybe you are getting them from someone else who is getting them from them, etc. The truth is, it doesn't matter. What does matter is that you have the same products/many of the same products they sell. To be listed in the ODP your site has to be evaluated to determine it contains unique content. Your content isn't unique and doesn't warrant being listed. Period.
 
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I understand that you are saying it doesn't matter where I get it from so Answer my other questions. I can give you so many sites with the same content that sell the same things. Like I said most electronic stores have the same electronics but what makes the difference in the store is the price. My question for you is this If someone sells JVC Camera, which is being sold by many stores, does that mean you will not list that person's site?
If your answer is No then how come you have listed so many stores which sell these cameras. If you would like I can give you the links. Please do not discriminate!
 

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<<<My question for you is this If someone sells JVC Camera, which is being sold by many stores, does that mean you will not list that person's site?
If your answer is No then how come you have listed so many stores which sell these cameras. If you would like I can give you the links. Please do not discriminate!>>>

It isn't one camera alone that is making your site non-unique. Having one product found on other sites isn't the problem. For that same reason, finding me a bunch of sites selling that same camera isn't going to zap their listing either. No one is discriminating against anyone. An editor looks at a site and decides....does the bulk of content appear unique to me? If so, and if the site meets specific shopping criteria such as prices and a way to purchase, the site is listed. Later on, say that same editor notices more of the same group of products coming in on other sites as well. That editor then decides, well...those products are well represented here already. Adding more of the same isn't going to bring anything to this area of the ODP--no need to add this site since it is available on lots of others and has nothing new to bring. That site is then denied a listing. This is clearly stated in ODP guidelines: http://dmoz.org/guidelines/include.html#include

If sites were listed earlier and content was unique then is it fair to remove those listings because a large group of people now want to add sites to the directory that offer the same product content? I don't believe that it is. The problem is not the specific product, but rather seeing that same product repeated over and over again. If some have gotten through and repeat within a specific category it will eventually be caught. There isn't enough people or time to go through each category regularily and compare each product someone sells to be sure it is still unique. We do try to compare, but can't take things site by site and spend hours evaluating each product. Huge number of submissions come in each day, we would never get to those if all we did was constantly evaluate what is listed.

So, as I said before...if you see sites where the bulk of the content is repeated feel free to send me feedback with the urls (do not list them here) at the link I already provided and I will check into it. I don't know how to state this more simply than that. No one is being unfair or discriminating at all. We are simply doing what is asked of us, and denying sites that we are aware has non-unique content.
 
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Here is an example of sites which sale a lot of products a like. Future Shop and Business Depot. They sell a lot of products alike but the difference in them is their prices and several different products. Same thing with my site, I sell a lot of the products that are being sold on the site you've mentioned but I have different prices and some products are different. Another example is almost all computer stores sell the same products - Memory, Hard drive, Monitor and CPU etc... But you do list online computer stores. What I want you to tell me is this, How could I get my site listed, sell donkey [censored] because it is unique?
 

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Your last sentance is not necessary. It appears nothing is going to satisfy you unless you get what you want and that is not possible. None of us can give you what you want because it is exactly the opposite of what our guidelines tell us we can do. You are selling the same products that are coming in on hundreds of ezdropship.com affiliates--it is not unique content and it will not be listed. Period, case closed.
 
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