Status Request: http://www.flightfound.com
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jimnoble
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Your suggestion has been declined. The reason will be found within our Submission Guidelines.
Thanks for your quick answer, but in your "Submission Guidelines" can be found millions of reasons why you can decline any submission.
Is there any way to know what was the exact reason or reasons in my submission, so I can correct them and try again?
Is there any way to know what was the exact reason or reasons in my submission, so I can correct them and try again?
There is a single reason. There's always one reason, and it's always the same.
Lack of unique content: you haven't added anything to the sum of human knowledge.
Now, we could list all the bits that could be added to the sum of human knowledge, and point out that no, you haven't added each one of them. But so what? If you'd skipped all of them and come up with something else uniquely informative, we'd want to list the site anyway.
Or we could list all the ways in which you could eat someone else's dog food and regurgitate it in your web site. But so what? You could find a new way to plagiarize, or a new way of getting paid for doorway spam pages: and even though we'd never seen it before, we'd still not want to list it.
We could tell you the way we recognized your spam as spam, but we won't: we'd prefer people not waste time gilding their cowpatties before flinging them at us. And anyway, so what? Each editor has his own set of spam-detecting techniques -- but all of them are merely quick ways of recognizing that there's no point of looking for unique content on a site. In the end, before listing a site, we have to look for the unique content. If it's not there, ... it's not there. And that's the end of it.
So look at your site. What does it have we can't find elsewhere? Eh? Well, WE couldn't find it on your site either.
So that's the end of it.
Lack of unique content: you haven't added anything to the sum of human knowledge.
Now, we could list all the bits that could be added to the sum of human knowledge, and point out that no, you haven't added each one of them. But so what? If you'd skipped all of them and come up with something else uniquely informative, we'd want to list the site anyway.
Or we could list all the ways in which you could eat someone else's dog food and regurgitate it in your web site. But so what? You could find a new way to plagiarize, or a new way of getting paid for doorway spam pages: and even though we'd never seen it before, we'd still not want to list it.
We could tell you the way we recognized your spam as spam, but we won't: we'd prefer people not waste time gilding their cowpatties before flinging them at us. And anyway, so what? Each editor has his own set of spam-detecting techniques -- but all of them are merely quick ways of recognizing that there's no point of looking for unique content on a site. In the end, before listing a site, we have to look for the unique content. If it's not there, ... it's not there. And that's the end of it.
So look at your site. What does it have we can't find elsewhere? Eh? Well, WE couldn't find it on your site either.
So that's the end of it.
What I cannot see in you is any characteristics that anyone would like to find in a member of dmoz. I only can see in your message despise and foul language.
If this is the way that dmoz works, I don't like that my site can be listed in this directory.
Btw, I've never spammed. You only have to search in google: "flightfound spam" to check that only appears one link from a site that doesn't seem to be very reliable.
And finally you ask "What does my site that can't be found elsewhere?" My site gets information from other sites to show all the information in just one report, so it works in the same way that other search engines such as google.
And now my questions: What unique content to the sum of human knowledge has dmoz? Is dmoz a plagiary or someone else's dog food?
Thanks for your time.
If this is the way that dmoz works, I don't like that my site can be listed in this directory.
Btw, I've never spammed. You only have to search in google: "flightfound spam" to check that only appears one link from a site that doesn't seem to be very reliable.
And finally you ask "What does my site that can't be found elsewhere?" My site gets information from other sites to show all the information in just one report, so it works in the same way that other search engines such as google.
And now my questions: What unique content to the sum of human knowledge has dmoz? Is dmoz a plagiary or someone else's dog food?
Thanks for your time.
hpff said:
We include as "spam" clearly unsuitable suggestions. If you look at the description of the category, you'll see why. The question of whether your site is listable anywhere in the directory is a little more complex, but the answer is "no".
What benefit is there to your site which is not supported by links to the sites you survey? (Which would be listable if we didn't already have it.)
Regardless of the selection procedure for the links and our writing of the titles and descriptions, the category structure is a unique contribution.
The definition of "spam" is "unwanted electronic communication". It doesn't matter whether it comes via e-mail or by html form or fax or internet chat or forum messages.
The submittal policy rather clearly states what the ODP submittal form is to be used for. You (and a few thousand other people that day--maybe half of all the people that used it at all) abused it.
You are the spammer. The ODP editors are the victims.
You may apologize if you like.
The submittal policy rather clearly states what the ODP submittal form is to be used for. You (and a few thousand other people that day--maybe half of all the people that used it at all) abused it.
You are the spammer. The ODP editors are the victims.
You may apologize if you like.
To be honest I'm not sure how many times I have submitted the URL to dmoz the last two years. May be 4 or 5 times. I don't consider this spam.
If your system would be friendlier and would provide more feedback, probably I and a lot of thousand other people wouldn't loose our time working for nothing.
Arubin, the benefits of my site are at less so useful (or so useless) than other similar sites in "Budget Airfares" category such as: SkyScanner, QIXO, budget-fly.com, etc.
Why you have published these sites and not mine is a mystery for me after all these messages. You seem to have very clear these reasons, but the only concrete reason explained so far is spam. Again, 4 or 5 submissions in two years is not spam.
Answering your question, you cannot search one flight in up to 9 flight search engines at once in real time and let the user show and sort the results of all of these engines in a table with just links.
Hutcheson, I don't say anything to have to apologize. Please, read your first message and think if you can say the same.
If your system would be friendlier and would provide more feedback, probably I and a lot of thousand other people wouldn't loose our time working for nothing.
Arubin, the benefits of my site are at less so useful (or so useless) than other similar sites in "Budget Airfares" category such as: SkyScanner, QIXO, budget-fly.com, etc.
Why you have published these sites and not mine is a mystery for me after all these messages. You seem to have very clear these reasons, but the only concrete reason explained so far is spam. Again, 4 or 5 submissions in two years is not spam.
Answering your question, you cannot search one flight in up to 9 flight search engines at once in real time and let the user show and sort the results of all of these engines in a table with just links.
Hutcheson, I don't say anything to have to apologize. Please, read your first message and think if you can say the same.
spectregunner
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We do.
How anyone can know if even the first submission is unwanted for you? Why do you have the submission feature if any thing could be unwanted for you? All of this is crazy!!!
This site is full of dogmas and fault of reasons.
It's curious because yesterday I was thinking that this site has all the attributes from the dictatorships and the mafia.
Now you even use his vocabulary. What is the next step, kill who you consider unwanted?
May be dmoz stand for demonize?
This site is full of dogmas and fault of reasons.
It's curious because yesterday I was thinking that this site has all the attributes from the dictatorships and the mafia.
Now you even use his vocabulary. What is the next step, kill who you consider unwanted?
May be dmoz stand for demonize?
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Unwanted sites: these are very clearly marked on DMOZ, and by suggesting a site you agreed to follow these rules
read http://dmoz.org/add.html and http://dmoz.org/guidelines/include.html#notinclude
read http://dmoz.org/add.html and http://dmoz.org/guidelines/include.html#notinclude
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/s/Wormtongue, for Screwtape
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Alucard
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This discussion has gone on long beyond the scope for which this forum was intended.
Several editors have reviewed the site and it has been determined that it is not suitable for a listing. Forum policies say that we will not get into debates about the reasons why. Please, everyone, let's stick to that before this gets even nastier.
Thanks.
Several editors have reviewed the site and it has been determined that it is not suitable for a listing. Forum policies say that we will not get into debates about the reasons why. Please, everyone, let's stick to that before this gets even nastier.
Thanks.