Status www.thai-islandhopper.com

lachenm

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Unless you tell us where it was submitted (clickable link please), we can't tell you its status.

Without that information, all I can tell you is that it doesn't appear to have been reviewed by an editor, which would be equally true if it was submitted and awaiting review, OR if it was never submitted in the first place. As a result, knowing the category is very important (as noted in the Forum Guidelines).
 

freshegg

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I was told by my SEO that the
Category of submitted site to Dmoz was at the clickable point. I hope that this is enough to request status.

For I bee daft as a brush sometimes <img src="/images/icons/confused.gif" alt="" />

Thank you in advance.
 

motsa

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I don't see it waiting in that category or any sign that it was rejected from that category but since the content on it mirrors that of hotel-travel-asia.com , it won't be listed.
 

freshegg

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Thank you for your help.

A question about mirror sites as your reply refers to it.
Does the unique guide content on thai-islandhopper.com not count? ( Or should I post this inquiry elsewhere?)

Regards.
 

hutcheson

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The usual directive from our leader applies: if the primary purpose of a site is to drive affiliate sales, it should not be listed.

You should also note that hotel rezzer sites are getting especially heavy scrutiny right now -- even having your own independent database of hotels is by no means enough unique content to guarantee a listing. (Search these forums for perspectives on some other sites in the same racket.) And, even if a site passes the "primarily an affiliate test", if it involves hotel rez affiliations, the editor SHOULD not spend more than 59 seconds looking for unique content.

Yes, this is a more restrictive guideline than usual. It is because, based on current experience, we really believe that the mere presence of a hotel reservation site SUBTRACTS significant value from the directory. So there had better be prominent, valuable, unique content on the site, or we want very badly to not list it.

My opinion is that if the site didn't fail the "primary affiliate test", the guide content on that site would still be noways prominent enough to pass the 59-second test, and noways valuable enough to pass the ordinary "unique content" test. It's not even information, it's generic adhype-babble. You could replace all the toponyms with Burmese one, and the site's information and truth values would hardly be affected.

Pure and simple, it's nothing but advertising, for services you don't offer. Its value is altogether for its proprietor, it has no value at all for the ODP.
 

freshegg

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Thank you for your frank reply. It is not an affiliate site but I do have other URL using the same database which I assume is treated in the same way.

I have been in the travel business for 15 years and 10 years in Thailand and I believe I have been lead in the wrong direction with poor advice. <img src="/images/icons/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/icons/blush.gif" alt="" />

Q Is it possible to correct a site to make it Dmoz appropriate. Will Dmoz update to reflect the change?

Regards
Valuable trueth hurts...but is most appreciated.
 

Alucard

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The way to make a site more listable in the ODP is to give it unique content. This means something that a user (the people we build this directory for) will find interesting or useful, and which they can't find elsewhere. This would include text that is pasted from another web site, or bought from a source which already provides that text online.

We don't mind a few affiliate links - but the criteria you can use (which is the one we use) is "in your mind, take out all the affiliate links - now, would you list this site?" - it's not too hard.

And yes, DMOZ will re-review sites - both sites previously rejected with content improved, and also sites approved which have their content reduced to just affiliate links. Unfortunately, we get a few of these....

Thanks very much for asking - we appreciate it much more than people just complaining about something we can not influence. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" />
 
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