submission status http://www.moneysupermarket.com

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chris22rv

I submitted the site 2 months ago to:

http://www.dmoz.org/Regional/Europe/United_Kingdom/Business_and_Economy/Financial_Services/Personal_Finance/

After a short discussion with the editor, a week later I was told that it had been added, but it's so far not appeared.
I tried to contact that editor subsequently, but had no reply, also the link to the editor has now disappeared from that category. So I tried to submit the site to a different category. Unfortunately there were problems with the submission tool on the DMOZ site. I even tried a different category, but that didn't work.
 

From the editor-side logs, deleted as having no unique content.

(an editor with no privileges or interest in that category)
 
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chris22rv

Re: submission status http://www.moneysupermarket.

Deleted for offering nothing unique to the category. Sorry.

Sorry, I don't understand this, surely not every site listed in DMOZ is unique, is it? Certainly, there are sites which offer very similar facilities listed under one category - like CNN and BBC? Google and Altavista?

I've looked at DMOZ for an explanation of this, but I can't find anything related to it.
 

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Re: submission status http://www.moneysupermarket.

Quoting our guidelines which is quote clear to me:

Consider the relative value of a resource in comparison to others information resources available on your particular topic. Relative value refers not only to the quality of the site, but also to its ability to contribute important, unique information on a topic.

In general, ODP editors should enter sites that represent the following:

* Original, unique and valuable informational content that contributes something unique to the category's subject.
* Contrasting points of view on major issues. The ODP attempts to cover the full breadth and depth of human knowledge, representing all topics and points of view on those topics.

For example we do list lots of search engines, because they deliver different results that are based on dfferent databases or maybe the same database with additional features. The concept of a search engine is the same, but the content (i.e. search results) is different. We ask ourselves the questions: "May users that have visited the other sites in this category benefit from listing the new suggestion?" and "Which sites do users browsing into this category expect to be there?".

Sorry, I don't understand this, surely not every site listed in DMOZ is unique, is it?
Maybe not, but that would happen as a mistake. We are human, so we are not perfect and some sites slip through.
 
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chris22rv

Re: submission status http://www.moneysupermarket.

Quoting our guidelines which is quote clear to me:

Consider the relative value of a resource in comparison to others information resources available on your particular topic. Relative value refers not only to the quality of the site, but also to its ability to contribute important, unique information on a topic.

In general, ODP editors should enter sites that represent the following:

* Original, unique and valuable informational content that contributes something unique to the category's subject.
* Contrasting points of view on major issues. The ODP attempts to cover the full breadth and depth of human knowledge, representing all topics and points of view on those topics.

For example we do list lots of search engines, because they deliver different results that are based on dfferent databases or maybe the same database with additional features. The concept of a search engine is the same, but the content (i.e. search results) is different. We ask ourselves the questions: "May users that have visited the other sites in this category benefit from listing the new suggestion?" and "Which sites do users browsing into this category expect to be there?".

Sorry, I don't understand this, surely not every site listed in DMOZ is unique, is it?
Maybe not, but that would happen as a mistake. We are human, so we are not perfect and some sites slip through.

Well, that seems clear in a way, but surely it's a very grey area? Unless sites are absolutely identical - which is rarely the case there are always differences. For example, you could say there are other sites like MoneySupermarket, which will search through a database for the best personal finance deal for you. We use a different (better :smirk:) algorithm than other sites though, so isn't that as different as the different perspectives given to you on the same piece of news as say the BBC and CNN? We may also search different financial organisations or arrange the data differently. I would have thought this would be quite hard to judge as an editor?

I know this isn't the appropriate place to appeal about the actual decision, but I can't find a place where I can do that. I wasn't told about the decision, and there's no other facility in place on DMOZ itself to find out. Help?
 
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chris22rv

Re: submission status http://www.moneysupermarket.

Can someone tell me what the status is now with my site? As I said, I have tried to re-submit it, but because the input at DMOZ was buggy at the time, I'm still not sure if it's been submitted, or if I need to do it again? Can any of you editors tell me? :confused:
 

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Re: submission status http://www.moneysupermarket.

You were already told it was rejected in the first posting in this thread, so I don't see any legitimate question in your posting.
 
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