Submission Status of www.5es.co.uk

Please let me know the status of www.5es.co.uk, submitted to Regional: Europe: United Kingdom: Business and Economy: Business Services: Distribution and Logistics on 22nd October 2004

Many thanks

Your link should be clickable, as in http://dmoz.org/Regional/Europe/Uni...Business_Services/Distribution_and_Logistics/

Your site isn't there and there is no sign it has been moved or declined. So feel free to resubmit. Please note there is a Consultants sub-category that might be a better fit given the title of your site. Thanks for the enquiry.

Thanks

Will do - thanks

Seems to part of the arkoid.co.uk and eeeee.co.uk collection of URLs

http://www.arkayltd.co.uk/ is already listed. That you've chosen to spread your website over multiple URLs doesn't make it eligible for multiple listings.

can we resubmit the site

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Please see our submission guidelines for the reasons why you probably won't want to do that.

The site appears to have an entirely different product focus and content so it can be reviewed independently of the others. But please be wary of submitting mirror sites.

5es and Otehr Sites

Please let me explain what we are up to. We run a marketing company that runs several web sites and phone/email answering for several small (some very small) businesses.

In most cases, people have set up a small business and then they do their day job. Our role is to act as the customer-facing (or marketing) arm of their business as they don't have the resources to do this. This way we can answer the phone (etc) for several companies instead of them all doing ot individually. We have 5es (the site in question here) as well as several others.

I hope you understand that we are not trying to hoodwink you guys. We don't spam or have any undesirable products and web sites. One thing we HAVE done is encouraged some of our clients to sell fly killers as agents of Insect-o-Cutor (we get a commission). So, all these sites are independent, but are run by us. They all promote the same fly killer products so you may - or may not - consider them as mirrors. At the moment we only have one of these sites on dmoz - that is arkayltd.co.uk. We have plenty more and our staff and clients have tried to place them in dmoz with no result. I don't know if these other fly killer sites will be allowed?

Sorry this was so long, I hope you are still awake.

Ed

I don't know if these other fly killer sites will be allowed?

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They weren't and they aren't.

Hey, I'm the most long-winded around here!

Explaining the situation here won't make any difference - the likelihood of the editor who ends up reviewing the site reading this is negligible.

As long as the sites submitted each contain original quality material each will be treated on their merits as regards a listing. Obviously if we know two sites are from the same source we will scrutinise them to make sure they are truly independent as regards content, that stands to reason. If one is about fly killers and another about packaging they are so far apart in topic as to not be an issue (on content grounds). If one is about fly killers and another about wasp killers then eyebrows would be raised and we wouldn't list both. Note that ownership of a site is not always a consideration either - if two sites owned by two different people were submitted and both had more or less identical content we wouldn't list both - lack of original content.

So, all these sites are independent, but are run by us. They all promote the same fly killer products so you may - or may not - consider them as mirrors.

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We might not call them mirrors but we would consider them affiliates and/or spam, equally as bad, if not worse - please do not submit those sites or encourage your clients to do so - it gets you a bad reputation and may cast doubts on legitimate sites you submit.

At the moment we only have one of these sites on dmoz - that is arkayltd.co.uk.

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You did have... Please review carefully the type of sites we don't list including doorways, mirrors, and affiliates - they may be legitimate Internet marketing tools but they are not for us. Stick to submitting genuine business sites with genuine products that are unique, and you may start to restore any damage done.

We seem to have been confused by there being several websites which appear at first sight to belong to the same organisation.

Perhaps you could post a complete list of their URLs here so that we can come to the correct conclusions .

Thanks. We don't run doorways, mirrors, or affiliate sites. We run web sites and marketing for other companies and get paid to do just that - not as an affiliate for any product line. I can send you a list of sites but need to get permission from the companies I am working for.

Meanwhile, if you don't allow affiliates, how did Dell get into this directory? There are countless sites either run by Dell or their affiliates selling the same products with the same pictures and even the same descriptions and prices. This also goes for many other hardware manufacturers, software companies, airplane ticket sales, vehicle sales etc etc.

Are all the Microsoft sites to be summarily removed as ours has been, not to mention those selling Netscape Communication Corporation software?

As I said, I will try to get our list of web sites. In the meantime would you kindly reinstate arkayltd.co.uk. Many thanks and happy new year.

Our Web Sites

Just to follow up on my last post, apparantly most of the fly killer sites ARE affiliates of www.eeeee.co.uk - I have just been informed of this. My sincere apologies for misleading you.

They are:
www.eeeee.co.uk (this is the on line selling site - the others below do not sell on line)
www.fly-kill.co.uk
www.arkayltd.co.uk (the one you removed)
www.fly-control.co.uk
www.fly-screen.net
www.flykill.co.uk
www.fly-kill.com
www.flykiller.net

Above are the fly killer sites. They are all regional except www.eeeee.co.uk which covers the whole UK.

Some, but not all of these companies, have applied to be included in dmoz but none have succeeded apart from arkaylyd.co.uk

The other sites we market for that have nothing to do with flies are:

www.5es.co.uk (application to dmoz pending)
www.tune-pie.com (non profit making - still being developed)

After consulting my customers we would like to apply to submit www.eeeee.co.uk as this is the "mother" site and the others, as you suggested, are affiliates including arkayltd.co.uk. Can you please advise on what we should do next?


Ed

In the meantime would you kindly reinstate arkayltd.co.uk.

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No, it acts as a doorway to another site, we don't list doorways. The other site is waiting for review in a suitable Shopping category. eeeee.co.uk? Thanks for the others, we'll make sure they don't appear.

For information, www.eeeee.co.uk is waiting for review in http://dmoz.org/Shopping/Home_and_Garden/Pest_Control/Mechanical/Animal_Pests/ . Online stores are not normally listed in Regional localities.

Since you know that bit you can return to this thread for a status update on both eeeee and 5es six months from now. In the meantime, please do not submit any other sites unless you are certain they are not affiliates, doorways, or mirrors (regardless of ownership), and they have high quality, unique content not found anywhere else.