i submitted my website to dmoz 6 months ago. All i want to know is what happened did i get refused fine i dont have a problem with that. am i still pending why is it taking six months. i submitted only once and there are editors in my catagories. what should i do wait some more.
submitted 6 months ago what to do now
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3 years and still not listed
I followed everyone’s advice submitted 3 years ago and forgot about it. My website is unique in every way and offers something that does not exist on the internet. I had special developers and content writers to make sure my website is of the highest standard.
Now I don’t mind waiting but when in all that time i find out that other websites in my category are accepted into dmoz that are of low standards shoot up in the ranking and offer exactly the same as the next dmoz listing next to it that to me is just unfair and wrong.
Ok now that i expressed my opinion any suggestions on what to do next, because it does not look like my website is going to be listed any time soon.
I followed everyone’s advice submitted 3 years ago and forgot about it. My website is unique in every way and offers something that does not exist on the internet. I had special developers and content writers to make sure my website is of the highest standard.
Now I don’t mind waiting but when in all that time i find out that other websites in my category are accepted into dmoz that are of low standards shoot up in the ranking and offer exactly the same as the next dmoz listing next to it that to me is just unfair and wrong.
Ok now that i expressed my opinion any suggestions on what to do next, because it does not look like my website is going to be listed any time soon.
jimnoble
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Did you read the FAQ yet? The answers to your questions and several others are there.
spectregunner
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If you have only submitted one in the past three years, then there is no real harm in submitting one additional time to the single best category.
If you have been submitting on a regular basis, then do not submit again and please stop resubmitting.
If you have been submitting on a regular basis, then do not submit again and please stop resubmitting.
I have a similar question to jackkaten. I submitted our site Sept 8, 2004. I waited, checked site submission status, and eventually submitted again on Nov 16, 2005. Every response I've gotten in the past 4 year says "read the FAQ", "sites are reviewed in random order", or something to that effect. I have not posted a forum question about this since 2005.
I undertand you guys get a lot of queries about how to open a web browser from people who don't know what they're doing, and as a tech support person myself, I know how annoying that is.
However, I'm really not doing that. I have waited patiently, and I have read the FAQ's. I do not understand what I should do to have my site listed in the directory. It is litteraly the only official site on a health care treatment that thousands of people contact us looking for all the time. Its failure to be listed in DMOZ makes it hard for many folks to find it in search engines.
How should I proceed? Should I submit the site again?
Thanks in advance for your help.
I undertand you guys get a lot of queries about how to open a web browser from people who don't know what they're doing, and as a tech support person myself, I know how annoying that is.
However, I'm really not doing that. I have waited patiently, and I have read the FAQ's. I do not understand what I should do to have my site listed in the directory. It is litteraly the only official site on a health care treatment that thousands of people contact us looking for all the time. Its failure to be listed in DMOZ makes it hard for many folks to find it in search engines.
How should I proceed? Should I submit the site again?
Thanks in advance for your help.
jimnoble
DMOZ Meta
If your website is listable, it's probable that your previous listing suggestion is still awaiting review. A fresh listing suggestion will simple overwrite the old one and won't improve time scale to review.
If your website isn't listable, it may well have been declined already. Further listing suggestions will likely meet the same fate.
One more listing suggestion to the same category won't mark you as a spammer, but there's no point making subsequent ones thereafter.
If your website isn't listable, it may well have been declined already. Further listing suggestions will likely meet the same fate.
One more listing suggestion to the same category won't mark you as a spammer, but there's no point making subsequent ones thereafter.
I am beginning to see a trend here
I have been scouring the forums trying to find out why DMOZ is so slow to review sites and list them, or notify site owners as to why their sites may have been rejected.
It is becoming very clear that the editors at DMOZ/ODP are simply to lazy to bother to respond to many of the questions in this forum regarding submission of sites.
Almost without fail, an editor simply replies with "Read the Guidlines" or "Read the FAQ".
Such replies are of no help to people who have already read these sections of ODP.
I submitted two basic sites over 8 months ago and they are still not listed at ODP. Yes, I followed the guidlines. Yes, I read the FAQ.
It would appear that when you submit a site to ODP it is strictly a matter of it being anyones best guess as to whether or not your site gets reviewed. I can understand this due to the fact that hundred of thousands of sites get submitted each month, but I think ODP needs to be up front and honest with people by simply stating that the chances of any one site being reviewed are slim to none.
Finally, I have to say that I too find it frustrating to have ODP "editors" come into a thread and post a standard, one size fits all reply of "Read the FAQ".
From one of the FAQ's
"How long does it take for a site to get listed" :
Answer:
Depending on the activity level of the editors in your area, it may take up to 2 weeks or more for your site to be reviewed. While the ODP is comprehensive in scope and coverage, we care a great deal about the quality of the ODP, and pride ourselves on being highly selective. We don't accept all sites, so please don't take it personally should your site not be accepted. Our goal is to make the directory as useful as possible for our users, not to have the directory include all (or even most) of the sites that could possibly be listed or serve as a promotional tool for the entities listed.
Translation:
We have no idea how long it will take. All we can tell you is that you will not see it happen sooner than 2 weeks. If it does not show up after two weeks there is no way to know for sure if your site will ever be listed. We do not accept most sites because we do not have the man power to review most of them. Even the ones that get reviewed are not likely to get listed simply because we do not like most of the sites that get submitted. We like to think that we know whats best for the Internet, and we like what we like. If your site does not hold our attention or if we do not like how it looks, we will chuck it. And here's the kicker: You will never know if your site is failing to show up because it has yet to be reviewed or because we rejected it. Why? Because we will not tell you. We prefer to leave people twisting in the wind. It's our little way of showing how much we care. Our goal is to make sure that most of the sites submitted never see the light of day.
Thank you for your time.
DMOZ Staff
I have been scouring the forums trying to find out why DMOZ is so slow to review sites and list them, or notify site owners as to why their sites may have been rejected.
It is becoming very clear that the editors at DMOZ/ODP are simply to lazy to bother to respond to many of the questions in this forum regarding submission of sites.
Almost without fail, an editor simply replies with "Read the Guidlines" or "Read the FAQ".
Such replies are of no help to people who have already read these sections of ODP.
I submitted two basic sites over 8 months ago and they are still not listed at ODP. Yes, I followed the guidlines. Yes, I read the FAQ.
It would appear that when you submit a site to ODP it is strictly a matter of it being anyones best guess as to whether or not your site gets reviewed. I can understand this due to the fact that hundred of thousands of sites get submitted each month, but I think ODP needs to be up front and honest with people by simply stating that the chances of any one site being reviewed are slim to none.
Finally, I have to say that I too find it frustrating to have ODP "editors" come into a thread and post a standard, one size fits all reply of "Read the FAQ".
From one of the FAQ's
"How long does it take for a site to get listed" :
Answer:
Depending on the activity level of the editors in your area, it may take up to 2 weeks or more for your site to be reviewed. While the ODP is comprehensive in scope and coverage, we care a great deal about the quality of the ODP, and pride ourselves on being highly selective. We don't accept all sites, so please don't take it personally should your site not be accepted. Our goal is to make the directory as useful as possible for our users, not to have the directory include all (or even most) of the sites that could possibly be listed or serve as a promotional tool for the entities listed.
Translation:
We have no idea how long it will take. All we can tell you is that you will not see it happen sooner than 2 weeks. If it does not show up after two weeks there is no way to know for sure if your site will ever be listed. We do not accept most sites because we do not have the man power to review most of them. Even the ones that get reviewed are not likely to get listed simply because we do not like most of the sites that get submitted. We like to think that we know whats best for the Internet, and we like what we like. If your site does not hold our attention or if we do not like how it looks, we will chuck it. And here's the kicker: You will never know if your site is failing to show up because it has yet to be reviewed or because we rejected it. Why? Because we will not tell you. We prefer to leave people twisting in the wind. It's our little way of showing how much we care. Our goal is to make sure that most of the sites submitted never see the light of day.
Thank you for your time.
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See, the reason we ask people to read the FAQ is because they patently haven't read the plentiful information at dmoz.org, nor the FAQ here. On the other hand there are people who read but don't understand the FAQ, and that is more difficult to tackle. Often, those people are so convinced that the ODP is about providing a service to website owners, that they read the information filtered through that conviction. All anybody can do about that kind of basic misconception is try and try again to shower them with information, and hope that at some point, a spark of understanding will appear. (Wow, am I ever mixing metaphors today.) Sometimes, people post after they have had that kind of epiphany - which is immensely gratifying and the reason I think this forum does serve a purpose after all.
Now you see..
Wow....the arrogance at DMOZ is palpable.
I mean really.
In the mind of a DMOZ staff member, either a poster has not read the FAQ or they have read it but they are too stupid to understand it. So, staffers just say, "READ THE FAQ" and do not bother to post informative replies.After all, if we are too stupid to understand the FAQ, then we are too stupid to understand informative replies.
Here's the problem Sunshine: The FAQ is nothing more than a smoke screen to disguise the simple fact that DMOZ may or may not review a site, and if it does review a site it may or may not accept it based on purely arbitrary reasons having to do with anything from the font style you use at your web site to what your favorite shade of blue is. And DMOZ is under no obligations, self-imposed or otherwise, to review any and all sites. They review sites at their own liezure, when and if they feel good and ready, and if they reject a site they have no intention of letting you know why. It has nothing to do with the volume of web sites they reject either. It has everything to do with the fact that DMOZ answers to no one
so they do what they want, when they want and for whatever reason they want.
LOL
I wonder just how soon my sites will be reviewed now that I have laid the Smackdown on these folks. Hehehe
I can just see my sites sky rocketing right to the very top of DMOZ. Oh wait. That "whoosh" sound I heard was not the afterburners on my site submissions. It was the sound of rushing water as my two sites were being flushed down the toilet by some DMOZ geezer with a chip on his shoulder.
Being a DMOZ staff member has to be the easiest gig on the planet. I hope you guys get paid what you are worth.
As I re-read my "translation" of your FAQ, I think I understand things perfectly.
Wow....the arrogance at DMOZ is palpable.
I mean really.
In the mind of a DMOZ staff member, either a poster has not read the FAQ or they have read it but they are too stupid to understand it. So, staffers just say, "READ THE FAQ" and do not bother to post informative replies.After all, if we are too stupid to understand the FAQ, then we are too stupid to understand informative replies.
Here's the problem Sunshine: The FAQ is nothing more than a smoke screen to disguise the simple fact that DMOZ may or may not review a site, and if it does review a site it may or may not accept it based on purely arbitrary reasons having to do with anything from the font style you use at your web site to what your favorite shade of blue is. And DMOZ is under no obligations, self-imposed or otherwise, to review any and all sites. They review sites at their own liezure, when and if they feel good and ready, and if they reject a site they have no intention of letting you know why. It has nothing to do with the volume of web sites they reject either. It has everything to do with the fact that DMOZ answers to no one
so they do what they want, when they want and for whatever reason they want.LOL
I wonder just how soon my sites will be reviewed now that I have laid the Smackdown on these folks. Hehehe
I can just see my sites sky rocketing right to the very top of DMOZ. Oh wait. That "whoosh" sound I heard was not the afterburners on my site submissions. It was the sound of rushing water as my two sites were being flushed down the toilet by some DMOZ geezer with a chip on his shoulder.
Being a DMOZ staff member has to be the easiest gig on the planet. I hope you guys get paid what you are worth.
As I re-read my "translation" of your FAQ, I think I understand things perfectly.
We will review a site, but no time frame is offered or implied.
Correct
Nope, based on whether the site offers unique imformation to the category
Well its self imposed, we review sites on our own timescale and at our own pace. Hey, we never promised to list all sites, and we never promised a timescale.
Correct - the webmaster can decide by reading the guidelines if a site is listable, theres no point in telling them again.
True
We answer to our own community, as does everyone else on the planet. They obey the rules of their community, even the criminals have their own codes of conduct they are answerable to, as I'm sure do you.
We work to create a directory, not to list sites. The two sometimes overlap, after all it's a directory of links to websites with unique content, it is not a directory of all websites on the planet.
Assuming that the site(s) are listable - about the same amount of time as if you had never posted here.
Entertaining post though, good sense of humor, seems to have a good grasp of what we've been saying, and voices his complaints well. Of course, that thing about us being a service is completely wrong, but that's a common misconception. I enjoyed the post though, it put a smile on my ole geezer face.
chaos127
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I presume that you mean "editor" here, rather than "staff". In which case you'll be please to know that the editors get paid precisely nothing -- we're all volunteers, who offer our time free of charge to build a directory to help those surfing the web find useful sites.
(There are, however, a few AOL employees involved with the project, largely looking after back-end programming and the various servers, etc. They do get paid for their work.)
DMOZ has lost its usefulness
Given that MANY companies, including ours, have submitted sites as far back as 2003-2004 and are still not listed, (see multiple posts in this thread), it would seem that this organisation should give up and shut down. Internet is supposed to be quick and up to date. What is the point of running an internet based organisation that when it finally gets around to listing sites, the site owners have retired?
Like many monoliths run by volunteers, you are not doing your job effectively.
Hopefuls coming to you should expect very little support, and those search engines relying on your services should seek other alternative sources of reliable information.
If you want to be seen to be authorative and respected, please get your act together.
:aussie:
Given that MANY companies, including ours, have submitted sites as far back as 2003-2004 and are still not listed, (see multiple posts in this thread), it would seem that this organisation should give up and shut down. Internet is supposed to be quick and up to date. What is the point of running an internet based organisation that when it finally gets around to listing sites, the site owners have retired?
Like many monoliths run by volunteers, you are not doing your job effectively.
Hopefuls coming to you should expect very little support, and those search engines relying on your services should seek other alternative sources of reliable information.
If you want to be seen to be authorative and respected, please get your act together.
:aussie:
PS: to my DMOZ comment above
Back in the days when we were allowed to ask about our sites, I had a moderator look at our site, and the comment was we had broken NO rules or guidelines, and suggested we would benefit by checking in 3-5 months. 3.5 years later, the site is still unlisted.
This excuse really is a cop-out for a shoddy organisation, badly run. I would be embarrassed to be an editor in such an organisation.
Back in the days when we were allowed to ask about our sites, I had a moderator look at our site, and the comment was we had broken NO rules or guidelines, and suggested we would benefit by checking in 3-5 months. 3.5 years later, the site is still unlisted.
This excuse really is a cop-out for a shoddy organisation, badly run. I would be embarrassed to be an editor in such an organisation.
spectregunner
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Is the glass half full or half empty?
If you are a webmaster or site owner and you perceive that our mission is to list suggested sites, then the glass is clearly half empty because we are not a listing service -- no matter how badly you want us to be.
If you are a surfer, looking for interesting sites, you probably think the glass is half full because the editors, rather than listing yet another real estate agent, or flower shop, or web designer, often spend their time trying to find interesting sites that were never suggested.
It is all a matter of perspective.
We are not, and will not become, a listing service. There are plenty of places you can buy a paid listing, there are plenty of directories that will give you a listing in exchange for a reciprocal link. Perhaps they can better satisfy your needs.
If you are a webmaster or site owner and you perceive that our mission is to list suggested sites, then the glass is clearly half empty because we are not a listing service -- no matter how badly you want us to be.
If you are a surfer, looking for interesting sites, you probably think the glass is half full because the editors, rather than listing yet another real estate agent, or flower shop, or web designer, often spend their time trying to find interesting sites that were never suggested.
It is all a matter of perspective.
We are not, and will not become, a listing service. There are plenty of places you can buy a paid listing, there are plenty of directories that will give you a listing in exchange for a reciprocal link. Perhaps they can better satisfy your needs.