Submitting http://www.shoppingasseenontv.com/

On 5-21-02 I submitted this http://www.shoppingasseenontv.com/ to the Top: Arts: Television: Infomercials, http://dmoz.org/Arts/Television/Infomercials/, category where I found similar web sites.

Checking on 7-26-02 the site was not listed and I noticed there was no editor so I submitted to Shopping: Gifts: Stores: S, http://dmoz.org/Shopping/Varied_Merchandise/S/
So far the site has not been listed.

I’m a web designer and do more and more Search engine marketing for clients. I never knowing SPAM and follow the ‘best practices’. I swear!

Hello evision.

Your site is a mirror for http://www.shoppingasseenontv.biz/ - we do not list mirror sites. It does not appear to have ever been submitted to Shopping/Varied_Merchandise/S as it was not deleted from unreviewed there and it does not currently appear in the queue.

It was submitted to Arts/Television/Infomercials 4 times, and it was deleted from unreviewed there, as well as in Shopping/Gifts/Stores - as an affiliate site. As far as I can see, it's an affiliate site of http://www.permissioninteractive.com/ We do not list affiliate sites in ODP.

Please refer to the ODP Editorial Guidelines for additional information.

Thanks for the quick reply. The site's not acutally a mirror. The .biz site is database driven and uses URL queries, with questions marks, to build dynamic product pages. Becuase we wouldn't be able to get the search engines to index the product pages we built the .com site with top products in standard HTML pages. Since this dosen't matter with OPD I guess we should just submit .biz site?

They tell me it's not an affilate site either, but a separate business that's actually a competitor of that other one, and many others. However the ordering processes are all handled by one company (I don't know. Does that make them an affilate).

Thanks again. I learned a few things.

The site's not acutally a mirror. The .biz site is database driven and uses URL queries, with questions marks, to build dynamic product pages. Becuase we wouldn't be able to get the search engines to index the product pages we built the .com site with top products in standard HTML pages.

That is a fair tactic as far as SEO is concerned, however for ODP purposes only one site is permitted to be listed. The definition of mirror is rather different to the old 'a copy on a different server' , and in this case relates to the same content being offered by the same company on different sites. It doesn't matter how the content is delivered, or if it has a different 'feel' to the page, only the content matters. So yes, submit the .biz site, if that's the one you prefer to have listed, with a note that it is mirrored in HTML only at the .com URL. (In the description box add this to the end of your requested description [I'd personally use square brackets like this])

As far as affiliate content - you could either try and explain it in the application or in a post here , with a pointer to that post in the listing application.

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They tell me it's not an affilate site either, but a separate business that's actually a competitor of that other one, and many others. However the ordering processes are all handled by one company (I don't know. Does that make them an affilate).

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&gt;However the ordering processes are all handled by one company (I don't know. Does that make them an affilate).

Let me answer this way. What can be unique about a shopping site? What is unique about Walmart store #457 is not the products it carries -- every item there is available at 2000 other Walmarts, not to mention other outlets. What is unique is the service: that I can drive 2 miles from my home at 123 Park Lane, Podunk Hills, AK, pick up my gallon of milk, and have it home before it curdles.
So there are two items involved -- the product (milk) and the service (delivered to a particular location).

The online equivalent to "service" is the company that handles the order process. Different order processor might mean "different content" and a website built around it might thus be listable. But the same product from the same "order processor" is CERTAINLY "unique" in no way, and a website built around that would be non-listable.