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vorxio

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Hi, here I'm again.
I previously opened two polemical threads against DMOZ policy about sites status check:

"Far to be perfect ... ": http://resource-zone.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=41905

and

"my site will never be listed on DMOZ ... ": http://resource-zone.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=42021

Luckily I met a HEARTY dmoz editor XXX in another forum (not on DMOZ), I talked with him on ICQ, and he politely checked the status of my site.
He said that it has been repeatedly rejected by THE SAME dmoz editor YYY because ACCORDING TO HIM my site lacks of unique content.

Now, I could spend MANY lines of text to prove that this judgment IS WRONG (my site has some online games that CANNOT be found ELSEWHERE in the web, and those that can be found elsewhere, in my site have an online hiscore table ...). XXX editor agrees that my site should be listed.

And I don't think YYY discarded it because it owns a concurrent site, perhaps I think it is a superficial judgment ... it's like if one includes www.yahoo.com in the "search engines" category, then he rejects www.google.com because it provides the same search functionality.

But the point I would like to underline here is that other SERIOUS webmasters can have the same problem and they are completely unable to discover ***IF*** and WHY their sites cannot be listed on DMOZ.

I would like to suggest a more FRIENDLY and OPEN approach:

1) in the suggestion form add a distorted number image check to avoid SEO tools
2) require email confirmation before queuing a site ... with distorted number + email confirmation you are almost sure that you're "talking" with a person, not a bot
3) add a field "NOTES for editor" in the submission form
4) create a simple automatic "site status check" form for webmasters
5) when a site is rejected send an ANONYMOUS email to the webmaster in which you tell the official reason of the rejection
6) when you reject a site mark it with a configurable delay time (1, 2, 3, ... months) and don't allow people to resubmit it until that period has elapsed

Thank you and best regards,
Vor
 

jimnoble

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We don't discuss the whys and wherefores of why a site's listing suggestion has been declined here. Editors edit. That's why they're here. If you believe that there has been editorial abuse, please raise an abuse report.

We've already explained on many occasions here why we are unlikely to ever provide automated status checks.

I'm closing this thread. Please don't open a similar one.
 

hutcheson

Curlie Meta
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vorxio, if the editor could not easily find your unique content, then ... that seems to be a problem which is yours, and which only you can address. If you could spend many lines of text proving the site has unique content, then ...

WHY IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS NOT TOTALLY CLUELESS HAVEN'T YOU ALREADY PUT THOSE MANY LINES OF TEXT ALREADY ON THE WEBSITE?

This is not and will not be a place for webmasters to describe their sites. THEY HAVE WEBSITES FOR THAT!

But ... what's so difficult about this concept?
 
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