Very confused!!

nwind

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I went to check my website at link popularity, and at the bottom it has a place to check it at DMOZ. So I did, this is the message I got
Search: www.northwindarabians.net
No Open Directory Project results found
I know for a fact my site is listed, so I went to the Dmoz search box, to make sure, and entered Northwind Arabians and that did show up. So why is my URL not showing up, but the site title does?
 

spectregunner

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Had you searched for: northwindarabians.net you would have found it.

I'd tell you where it is listed, but that would take away the joy of discovery. :D
 

martinpaling

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Not quite sure what the issue is here - your site is in the directory.

Perhaps you should contact the owner of the site with the backlink tool?
 

nwind

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Where did you get the addr.com from, that was used before I bought a domain name and I have not used it for 2 yrs. I am not an expert at this and I am trying to learn. What do you mean by kill it, and how do I get rid of it?
Why is it showing as northwindarabians.net instead of www.northwindarabians which is the correct url? Under my directory listing it is www.northwindarabians.net.
 

hutcheson

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The ODP "site search" has limitations. One of them is that the www component of URLs seems not to be included in the search index. So if you search for ANYTHING and "www", it's not going to be found. On the other hand, if you know the domain name, you can simply ignore the subdomain (whether it is www or ftp or long-spammy-keyword-packed-hype or whatever, doesn't matter) and just search for the domain name. Presumably you'd be interested in any other listings the domain had, anyway.

Standard ODP search trick.
 

nwind

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Thank You for the explanation, know I understand.

"martinpaling is http://www.northwindarabians.addr.com/ operated by you also?

it seems to be a duplicate site - if it is it would be worth killing one or the other as has been mentioned in the usenet google groups that you posted in before search engines begin to blacklist you"

Instead of being so harsh, would you please explain, so I know what to do, some of us are very new to doing websites. The addr.com came with my hosting package. Then I bought a Domain name. How do I kill one?
 

hutcheson

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Rather than being so judgmental -- that is, imputing harshness to people who were giving information without any extraneous verbiage, you should consider whether the information given was helpful. And martinpaling was clearly trying to be helpful -- by pointing out that you had been given some advice already, and it was really IMPORTANT advice.

In fact, SEO is not our business here, but martinpaling noticed a possible problem. Not a problem with the ODP: you know that your site is listed. But a problem with Google. Since the biggest spammers on the net are all generating thousands of pages by copying content, Google has to work very hard to eliminate duplicate content. And that work may impact people like you, who have multiple URLs (not obviously related) pointing to the exact same content, and haven't been careful to indicate which version is "original."

If I were you, I'd go back to the google group where you originally got the advice (or some other reputable webmaster forum) and ask about exactly what you need to do. (This forum is not about HTTP, HTML, etc.) There are several techniques: depending on your server technology and your development tools, one might work better for you.

And now, my piece of free advice: you have a farm (ranch, stables, whatever), right? I assume it is in a fixed location in a particular town (or outside of town, but in a particular county), right? And the site has already proven it can be listed in the ODP, right?

Therefore: give yourself a boost, do us a favor, and suggest that site also in a REGIONAL category: either Wisconsin/Localities/whatever or Wisconsin/Counties/whatever. If my assumptions are correct, it is virtually certain to get a second ODP listing. And we'd be grateful.
 

nwind

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Sorry,
I was taking it as he was being harsh that it had 2 url's, and I do not use the other one, if he would have explained it more. I would have understood, he was trying to help me. Sorry again, and thanks for the suggestions. I thought you could only list it 1 time. Thank You.
 

spectregunner

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I thought you could only list it 1 time.

Your thought is essentially correct. :D

The unfortunate part is that entire industries have sprung up consisting of individuals and companies who want to game the system for their own benefit, and at the expense of those who want to play the game honestly.

You'll also have to excuse the shorthand we sometimes use when talking to folks. It does lead to speedier communicatio, but sometimes it adds confusion. That is never our intention, and if it had that effect on you, I extend our apologies.
 

martinpaling

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nwind said:
Sorry,
I was taking it as he was being harsh that it had 2 url's, and I do not use the other one, if he would have explained it more. I would have understood, he was trying to help me. Sorry again, and thanks for the suggestions. I thought you could only list it 1 time. Thank You.

sorry i did not explain it as well as i might... though do bear in mind if i meant you any malice i would have not told you at all
 

nwind

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"though do bear in mind if i meant you any malice i would have not told you at all"
Point well taken, I will try not to be so sensitive next time. Now I just need to do some research and find out how to get rid of the old url. Thank You!!
 
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