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To say it does not matter about listing sites in English in the English language section because the same sites will be in the Japanese or German or whatever sections is most peculiar.
That's not what gimmster is saying. He's saying that it wouldn't be surprising for regions in a country where English is not the primary language to have many more sites in the country's mother tongue than in English.
maybe i was being a bit glib
But as,, in many regions, the principal market for this particular type of goods is English speaking marketing is is also often done in English. There will not be the same no, no, but there will be a significant no.
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Siret and office are just good qualifications to match the strict guidelines for American realtors, I am not suggesting that Dmoz should become a law enforcer.
But the ODP doesn't enforce the strict guidelines for American realtors, either. If a site is listable according to ODP guidelines, then we don't look at whether it is listable according to the rules governing the company's location or profession.
sorry I did not make myself clear, by "the strict guidelines for American realtors" i meant the strict ODP guidelenes for listing...... not anything legal.
<<there is a total of 1 site waiting for review in
http://www.dmoz.org/Regional/Europe/...my/Real_Estate which is the lowest level that exists for Pezenas as far as I can tell (I don't generally edit in France)>>
Not surprising, Safran is on it. But that does not speak of rejected submissions from the past (nor ones blasted out in the various 'campagns',.) safran has, almost singlehandedly, made the France cat what it is. However when he looks at the small cats he is not going to have time for much more than a quick blast clean.
<<You should evaluate each site in your list against the listing guidelines for Real Estate sites and suggest those that are listable to that category (and without the deeplinks to the UK versions). I don't just mean say 'they are in Pezenas' so they are listable. I mean review them for actual unique content before suggesting them. <hint> ignore 'listings' that are hosted/pulled from other sites - see my earlier post on MLS/IDX - it is not relevant what you call it, but I flat out refuse to believe it when a small 'local' agent claims to have several hundred properties all over France for sale.>>
I did, but was not going to review them all for a quick reply, there are actually over 30 estate agents with offices in Pezenas (20 years ago there was just one ) . I missed out the Century21 ones, only listed one of the three ORPI ones, which is a bit unfair as they are all independant realtors, and missed out most of the agents who use one of the national listing sites as their 'home page', missed out the just newbuild (why? dunno) ones etc.
<<No, actually it's quite relevant. It may be that they dont realise they can be listed in both languages, but there are (it appears) significantly less (correctly suggested) sites in the English side than the French one. That may be a cause of part of the disparity between the number of listed sites in each language. I have rarely seen editors trying to build a Real Estate category from scratch, this is one case where suggestions are the most likely way of getting a site reviewed/listed.>>
I would be surprised if this was completely correct. On the web side, I do not work for any local agents in Pezenas ( please note I tried to just pick agents who are physically in Pezenas) but in several cases I know and/or have worked with the agents and or the webmasters and or the designers. They are all fighting for a larger slice of the Anglophone market and the webmasters and designers (makes them sound like an army, but am talking about a handfull) regard DMOZ as being important.
Perhaps, because we are country bumpkins, we still see it that way while the rest of the world has begun to rumble, twitter and stumble. These sites would haver been submitted, however with the possibility of a 2 year wait for review.....submitted once, no notch on the calendar and forgotten.
<<<< it is, on the whole, that handfull who select for Dmoz and therefore it is the sites preferred by that handful that appear in Dmoz.
Sorry - thats an assumption of editor abuse from my perspective. If you have proof, submit an abuse report. Otherwise don't say things you have no proof of.
<added> This mght be a language thing, I read "who select for Dmoz" as being "the ones that list sites in DMOZ", it is possible you meant "the ones that suggest their sites to DMOZ" which would have an entirely different meaning. >>>>>
It is both; primarily the submitters, secondly the editors. The majority of sites suggested will come from the expat community and a high no of those who look at the sites will also come from that community. We are talking about an anglophone directory of France!
But it is not a critique of any editor or a suggestion of editor abuse. We all see the world through the lenses we have built up from our likes, our lives, our habits, our mores. This is not , I repeat, any form of suggestion of any form of intentional or promotional or discriminatory treatment of submitted or suggested sites. Taken to the extremes, your blue might well be my green, your valuable content might be unviewable pornography to me.
Perhaps the main fault lies in the selection methods for editors.
Over the past 5 years how many editors have applied for regional/europe/France local cats? How many have been turned down? Why?
I do not have these figures, I know nothing of them, but i do know people who have applied and been turned down. Please do not state the obvious - selection, description of three sites probably all conforming - there's no magic and the people that I know have applied, can all tie their own shoe laces.
Even assuming the majority of applicants are being sent in by bat mail from lunatic asylums, there is a question of quality policy, is it more useful to open a telephone directory with mainly blank pages or to open one with all filled pages but where some of the plumbers have been listed as doctors?
(the eminent realtor, other Rob, and dmoz comic was actually talking of a site that listed, in English, the offerings of various lagents, the majority of whom had, at that time, no English language side to their websites. i did not agree with him, know the website very well and it is still not listed in Dmoz
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