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- Thread starter Kzajko
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That's almost impossible to predict.
I've been really busy lately in real life, so I haven't had the energy to do much editing lately. It really depends on a lot of things.
I edit a few small Topical categories that don't get many site suggestions, so, when one does pop up, it usually gets my attention right away and I'll deal with it immediately, which means it may have been suggested an hour before and listed.
I'm also a Regional editor at the US level, so, I edit in every locality, in every state, so, we're talking about thousands of categories, and tens of thousands of site suggestions.
Where I edit in Regional is like throwing a dart at a map of the US, it really doesn't matter what state or which locality I choose to work in, there are thousands.
Also, an editor has many jobs to choose from, not just reviewing site suggestions, including building up categories by finding new sites on our own, creating sub categories, taking care of site update requests, placing links, forum discussions and Directory projects, investigating dead sites or problem urls and resolving them, training and advising new editors, writing category charters, ect.
So, there is no average time, it depends on where you suggest to, how many site suggestions are already there, what editors choose to work there, how much time they can or want to devote there that day, how much spam that gets submitted there and needs to be investigated, many things.
I'm just trying to give you a look inside the ODP, and what editors are doing, so you can understand how things work.
There is no predictability possible, and there is no waiting in line, as different volunteer editors have different methods of editing, different interests, and varying amounts of time to devote to what is for them a worthwhile hobby to help web surfers.
I've been really busy lately in real life, so I haven't had the energy to do much editing lately. It really depends on a lot of things.
I edit a few small Topical categories that don't get many site suggestions, so, when one does pop up, it usually gets my attention right away and I'll deal with it immediately, which means it may have been suggested an hour before and listed.
I'm also a Regional editor at the US level, so, I edit in every locality, in every state, so, we're talking about thousands of categories, and tens of thousands of site suggestions.
Where I edit in Regional is like throwing a dart at a map of the US, it really doesn't matter what state or which locality I choose to work in, there are thousands.
Also, an editor has many jobs to choose from, not just reviewing site suggestions, including building up categories by finding new sites on our own, creating sub categories, taking care of site update requests, placing links, forum discussions and Directory projects, investigating dead sites or problem urls and resolving them, training and advising new editors, writing category charters, ect.
So, there is no average time, it depends on where you suggest to, how many site suggestions are already there, what editors choose to work there, how much time they can or want to devote there that day, how much spam that gets submitted there and needs to be investigated, many things.
I'm just trying to give you a look inside the ODP, and what editors are doing, so you can understand how things work.
There is no predictability possible, and there is no waiting in line, as different volunteer editors have different methods of editing, different interests, and varying amounts of time to devote to what is for them a worthwhile hobby to help web surfers.
timamie261
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Kzajko said:Can somebody share his/her experience with how long -on average- does it take to be included in DMOZ? I know that sometimes it can take even several years but i am interesting in average time.
It can take any amount of time.
Make sure you have every thing in place before you suggest your site.
Taylor the site with your customers, viewers in mind.
Read the site suggestions rules.
Ad content, lots and lots of content.
Not garbage make it relevant content.
Look it over and look it over again and again.
And when your pleased with it and it meets the all the guidelines submit it once.
After you submit it don’t stop working on the site and let it go! Keep it fresh and updated with newer content.
Look at the competitors in your category add to your site what theirs does not contain work to make your site more unique then theirs.
If it is list able and If you get noticed by an editor you have a good chance of getting added.
All I can say is Dart throwing , Ouija Boards, and dice don’t work at getting sites listed it is waiting and working on the site that does the work for you.
From a site owner perspective, that's good advice.
Look at the other sites in a category, and if you can put some information on your site that none of them have, that gives your site unique content, which is what we look for.
One of the categories I edit in is about water gardens. Because I have one of my own, I'm very interested in that particular subject, so I'm very aware of what type of information is going to be useful to me as a web surfer looking for specific information, and what information is just generic information that every website on that subject contains.
If 20 other sites have the same information, why would I want to add another one? To be nice to the website owner? I'm not interested in being nice, I'm interested in finding new, unique information for the web surfer, that can't be found on the sites that are currently already listed.
I already know a lot about Water Gardens/ Koi Ponds, so when I find a site on the subject with new, interesting information, or a better way of presenting it, I get excited, it's like finding gold. It has unique information that is of value to web surfers.
If I get a site suggestion to that category that has the same old information that every site has, and it's just loaded with advertisement links to other sites, and presents no useful, unique information from the site owners personal experience with the subject, I'm going to delete the site suggestion.
It adds no value to the category, and no site has a right to be listed.
Back to how long it takes to get listed. I may find myself getting very busy editing in another part of the Directory, and as I can't be in more than one place at a time, I may not get around to editing in the Water Garden category for several months.
However, no editor owns a category, there are 200-300 other editors who can take a sudden interest in the Water Garden category and pop right in to do a little editing there, while I am occupied elsewhere, and they are most welcome to do so.
To quote editor spectregunner:
Just to add to that, those 7,000 + editors all have varying levels of editing privleges, some edit in one small category, and other more experienced editors edit in thousands of categories.
Look at the other sites in a category, and if you can put some information on your site that none of them have, that gives your site unique content, which is what we look for.
One of the categories I edit in is about water gardens. Because I have one of my own, I'm very interested in that particular subject, so I'm very aware of what type of information is going to be useful to me as a web surfer looking for specific information, and what information is just generic information that every website on that subject contains.
If 20 other sites have the same information, why would I want to add another one? To be nice to the website owner? I'm not interested in being nice, I'm interested in finding new, unique information for the web surfer, that can't be found on the sites that are currently already listed.
I already know a lot about Water Gardens/ Koi Ponds, so when I find a site on the subject with new, interesting information, or a better way of presenting it, I get excited, it's like finding gold. It has unique information that is of value to web surfers.
If I get a site suggestion to that category that has the same old information that every site has, and it's just loaded with advertisement links to other sites, and presents no useful, unique information from the site owners personal experience with the subject, I'm going to delete the site suggestion.
It adds no value to the category, and no site has a right to be listed.
Back to how long it takes to get listed. I may find myself getting very busy editing in another part of the Directory, and as I can't be in more than one place at a time, I may not get around to editing in the Water Garden category for several months.
However, no editor owns a category, there are 200-300 other editors who can take a sudden interest in the Water Garden category and pop right in to do a little editing there, while I am occupied elsewhere, and they are most welcome to do so.
To quote editor spectregunner:
There is no magic mathematical formula you can apply that will let you calculate when the next editor will visit a given category (700,000+ categories, ~7,000 editors) nor what a given editor will do when and if they visit a given category. Try to guess when the next time a given hummingbird will visit a particular flower on a particular bush. Calculate with or without the neighborhood cat making periodic visits.
Just to add to that, those 7,000 + editors all have varying levels of editing privleges, some edit in one small category, and other more experienced editors edit in thousands of categories.
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