Was hijacked now FREE and back! Need action

dmozfan

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When I search in DMOZ.org for yahoowar.com it says 1 match found under

Recreation: Humor: Useless Pages: Computers and Internet

but it is not listed in the directory.

The site seems to be back and working fine now.
 

bobrat

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Someone let the site registration expire and it was delisted from ODP. At some point it will be reviewed again to check it's current status.
 

dmozfan

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But...

when there is no editor for a particular category then who gets chosen to edit it?
 

hutcheson

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Don't think of people getting "chosen". And especially, especially don't think of any kind of micromanagement going down to the "site" level. This is the ODP, not a zombie flick.

Any editor can review any site, any time -- and list it (or delist it, or update its listing) in any category that he thinks appropriate. And if anyone makes a mistake in a category, anyone else with editing privileges (NOT assignments!) in a category can fix it.

At some point some editor may decide, on his own initiative, to work on that category. He may re-review existing sites, do Google searches, peruse links from other webpages or from magazines, or even look at suggested sites, or do all of the above. And he'll do it in whatever order seems most appropriate at the time.

That's why we don't know exactly when anything will get done.
 

bobrat

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It has to wait to be reviewed again, since once a URL lapses, we have no idea if the the original owner renewed, it or whether it was hijacked by someone else who plans to do a hit and run and change the content, while benefitting from prior traffic.

The good news is that you do not have to resubmit. The bad news is that no-one should ever let the URL regisration lapse.

[Someone is paying my thousands right now, because someone hijacked his URL and site, and it has to be all recreated from scratch]
 

dmozfan

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Why so slow then?

If any editor can check any directory then why is there a delay to correct an anomaly like yahoowar.com?

I personally think a human edited directory is quite a herculean task and any good quality control feedbak (like yahoowar mentioned above) should be attented to immedialely.

This will save time and improve the quality of the results for ODP. Why should the users suffer for delay from the editor(s)?
 

Alucard

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Quality control, for us, means trying to minimize the number of sites listed that are somehow in error.

Therefore, the priority is to delist expired domains, hijacks and the like, as soon as possible. We are very very careful about being so hasty to let these sites back in, as our experience has shown us that the buyers of the domain are often trying to fool someone (possibly us).

Now, I am not saying that this is necessarily the case, here, just explaining why it's not something that is done automatically.

So delisting a site and having it not listed is not an "anomaly" - it is regular directory practice.

The quality control feedback aspect was dealt with immediately - the site was delisted.

As for users suffering because this one particular site (or any specific site, for that matter) did not get immediately included back in the directory, I would like you to tell us who, specifially, you feel, would "suffer".

The nature of the ODP (like it or not - my guess is that you won't) is that sites get included according to the timetable of a set of editors which are capable of reviewing it, depending on their level of interest and time. Most editors are not sitting around waiting for something to do - there is more to do than there is time available.
 

dmozfan

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The Anomaly

Please don't get me wrong here - I've been using ODP and it delivers me very relevant info most of the time.

Like I said the editors have a huge task and thier work is commendable.

The anomaly I was refering to was that when you search for yahoowar it shows "1 match found" but there is no such link in the directory.

I went once to yahoowar because of ODP and I enjoyed that site. The site is back online and ODP wasn't updated although it throws up the link in a search (I understand the intentions of the new domain owner need to be verified and I hope it wont take very long)

Maybe the site should not result after a search (pending investigation) or maybe it should be included in the directory if the search throws up the site.

Because the accuracy is questioanble and so I suffer
 

pvgool

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Our Search database is always one or more weeks behind our directory. This is not a problem as the search is not intended to find individual sites. Also see our FAQ.
 
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