Web 2.0 and the Architecture of Participation

Jacob Mathai

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I read dozens of threads about the relevancy of the work we do here (good & bad) and just thought this might shed some perspective on and provide some context around what is happening.:)

http://www.oreillynet.com/lpt/a/6228

In the "...'90s notion that the web was about publishing, not participation; that advertisers, not consumers, ought to call the shots; that size mattered, and that the internet was increasingly being dominated by the top websites as measured by MediaMetrix and other web ad scoring companies."

The Architecture of Participation
Some systems are designed to encourage participation. In his paper, The Cornucopia of the Commons, Dan Bricklin noted that there are three ways to build a large database. The first, demonstrated by Yahoo!, is to pay people to do it. The second, inspired by lessons from the open source community, is to get volunteers to perform the same task. The Open Directory Project, an open source Yahoo competitor, is the result. But Napster demonstrated a third way. Because Napster set its defaults to automatically serve any music that was downloaded, every user automatically helped to build the value of the shared database. This same approach has been followed by all other P2P file sharing services.

One of the key lessons of the Web 2.0 era is this: Users add value. But only a small percentage of users will go to the trouble of adding value to your application via explicit means. Therefore, Web 2.0 companies set inclusive defaults for aggregating user data and building value as a side-effect of ordinary use of the application. As noted above, they build systems that get better the more people use them.

Mitch Kapor once noted that "architecture is politics." Participation is intrinsic to Napster, part of its fundamental architecture.

This architectural insight may also be more central to the success of open source software than the more frequently cited appeal to volunteerism. The architecture of the internet, and the World Wide Web, as well as of open source software projects like Linux, Apache, and Perl, is such that users pursuing their own "selfish" interests build collective value as an automatic byproduct. Each of these projects has a small core, well-defined extension mechanisms, and an approach that lets any well-behaved component be added by anyone, growing the outer layers of what Larry Wall, the creator of Perl, refers to as "the onion." In other words, these technologies demonstrate network effects, simply through the way that they have been designed.

These projects can be seen to have a natural architecture of participation. But as Amazon demonstrates, by consistent effort (as well as economic incentives such as the Associates program), it is possible to overlay such an architecture on a system that would not normally seem to possess it.
 

Callimachus

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Sad to see that such a good firm as O'Reilly buys into the "Web 2.0" nonsense. "Web 2.0" is empty marketing jargon. Even the people that go around clamouring the age of Web 2.0 can't provide a precise definition. The basic one seems to be websites that use dynamicly served content, AJAX and XHTML. All of which is old hat - AJAX is nothing more than the old DHTML (dynamic html) using html, javascript and DOM and putting on a fresh coat of paint. And database backed web sites are certainly nothing new.

The architecture of the internet, and the World Wide Web, as well as of open source software projects like Linux, Apache, and Perl, is such that users pursuing their own "selfish" interests build collective value as an automatic byproduct.

The participatory paradigm discussed caters primarily to the needs of the content creators, not the content users and is thus diametrically opposed to the ODP mandate where its end users are those that use the data in the directory, rather than those that create the sites in or those that do the editing of the directory. I would agree, if the ODP's aim and mandate was the support and promotion of content creators (if a service to webmasters). But it is not, it is a service to end users of the content.

As for Napster ... well we all know what happened to Napster.
 

Jacob Mathai

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They describe it as ". You can visualize Web 2.0 as a set of principles and practices that tie together a veritable solar system of sites that demonstrate some or all of those principles, at a varying distance from that core." It is certainly less rigid than typical specifications.

As to how people use ODP data -- it could potentialy be exposed as a web service and built upon (as some search engines have already).

I liked the idea that the web is a platform (a next generation software platform) - Ajax, Rich Client Computing (NexaWeb,Flex), Google's aquistion of Writely are examples of participation on this 'platform'. (I just had a netscape flashback!)

The takeaway for me at least was that participation (the work editors, site submitters etc) was defining the web as opposed to some board of directors or hired "keepers of the data".

"...here's an implicit "architecture of participation", a built-in ethic of cooperation, in which the service acts primarily as an intelligent broker, connecting the edges to each other and harnessing the power of the users themselves."

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hutcheson

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I'm all agog ... waiting for Web-bubble-bust 2.0, when marketing-hype meets reality in the information-age equivalent of a matter-antimatter reaction.
 

Jacob Mathai

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;) Not much into predictions and definately not sure how all of it will play out .. It is interesting that netscape (the vision behind this project) created the "web as a platform" idea "way back when" and it is starting to take form in the newer internet companies like ebay and google. Too bad Microsoft crushed them before the world got a taste of it. I guess we'll never know.

Google certainly remains the one of the more visible players in the space and last time I checked they were trading at a healthy $350+ a share. They have alot riding on the idea -so I guess we'll all just wait and see. :)
 
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