web site suggestion feature on <url removed>

Good morning,

hope all are well and inspired out there.

We just added a "<domain removed> web site suggestion for this odp category" feature to our odp based directory <url removed>.

In brief, wectar is a delicious/odp mashup which uses delicious informations to bring popularity feedback to odp and to relate web sites listed on delicious to odp listed web sites.

Based on the delicious tag information we can now also suggest web sites for odp categories from the pool of web sites which have been in the "most popular right now" feed from delicious. Besides having fun in playing around with the data we hope that this might help odp editors to find new popular web sites for odp categories. Nevertheless its bloody heuristic and for sure not precise whatsoever.

Hope you enjoy this feature

Best

martin

I've removed the URLs from your post because we don't discuss specific websites here.

Your site doesn't appear to conform with our license conditions because the Become an Editor and Submit a Site links don't work. Try a transaction and see for yourself.

Hi Jimnoble,

sorry for the url, didn't know that posting urls is not meant to happen here. After all this suggesting web sites feature was meant as a little giving back for the odp editors ...

Sorry if there are pages on ... which don't confirm with the license conditions , I will definitely change this as quickly as possible. Nevertheless I guess I need your help to find out on which pages of the web site the mentioned links don't work. If I go to <domain>/Society/People/Personal_Homepages or any other category listing the links seem to be okay for me. When using the related web sites feature there is obvious no unique category to be used for this resultant page so the category information is not given in the link, but linking is done to the general information pages.

So please let me know where and how to change the links so that the site is in tune with the license conditions.

Thanks in advance

martin

When using the related web sites feature there is obvious no unique category to be used for this resultant page so the category information is not given in the link, but linking is done to the general information pages.

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I can certainly see your technical difficulty in complying and that's where the problem lies.

Editors aren't authorised to grant dispensation: All legal matters should be discussed with AOL Legal at AOLLegal@corp.aol.com or did you already do that?

Hi Jimnoble,

no I haven't. Is there no general rule for using the dmoz data outside a pure category listing? What is with search facilities, which results are in general for sure also not within one category?

Thanks

martin

Hi Jimnoble,

I just checked randomly two web sites listed in dmoz which use odp data and checked how the attribution is set up when a search result is displayed. Both of them are doing just exactly what I do with the related feature, which is after all nothing but a sophisticated search feature. So other web sites doing the same doesn't mean this is in tune with the license nevertheless this seems to be something to be clarified in general. I guess search should be possible without violating the license agreements.

Apart from that, since I still think the "web site suggestion feature" would be something handy for dmoz editors, where can I introduce this facility to the editors?

Thanks again

martin

If editors are interested, they can Google the name of your site and find it that way.

Hi Motsa,

thanks for the reply, that is completely fine for me. Just surprised that it is so complicated to offer something properly useful here. Anyway, that is how things go sometimes

cheers

martin

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so if anyone is interested in this please after you found that site over google don't miss to visit the blog and check the entry from that 21. of November in order to find out under which circumstances the "web site suggestion" feature will work and how it is meant to be seen.

Hi all,

I just contacted AOLLegal as suggested by Jimnoble in order to find out how to attribute to dmoz on a search result page. I will let you know when I get an answer.

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No answer from AOLLegal so far, no further guidance here on this central question on how to attribute to dmoz on a search result page containing dmoz information, so I assume what I do (and anyway seemingly everybody else also) is the way to go and conform with the dmoz license.

Cheers

martin

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Still surprised that this central question hasn't been clarified in the past already. Hope you editors take over this issue and clarify this soon for us dmoz users.

Hope you editors take over this issue and clarify this soon for us dmoz users.

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In post no 4, I said Editors aren't authorised to grant dispensation: All legal matters should be discussed with AOL Legal

Let me add to that. AOL requires that editors not discuss legal matters and that they should all be referred to AOL legal. Editors are hobbyists, not legal experts; AOL Legal is.

Hi Jimnoble,

thanks for clarification. The idea was more that some editors address/forward this open problem towards AOL since I assume you guys have a closer connection with AOL then a dmoz user like me. I understand that this is not something you editors are supposed to solve or even discuss. Nevertheless I think we agree that this is an unclear issue and if clarified in the license agreement it would for sure makes things easier for us user who want to use dmoz in accordance with the license and also for sure save your editors precious time.

If I get an answer fine but if not what to do.

Cheers

martin

I assume you guys have a closer connection with AOL then a dmoz user like me.

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To all intents and purposes, that would be incorrect IMHO .