What happens if...?

I've had a lot of my website users wanting my site listed here on dmoz(as well as other search engines and directories). Some have even asked if they could submit the site for me.

Now even tho I have begged the ones who have asked --to not submit to dmoz. I'm afraid with the popularity of the website and lots of people trying to help they will eventually submit here.

I'm assuming this will push me back down in the queue or are the submissions done by IP's so that you can see it is not me spamming the dmoz directory?

I know it was probably my fault for asking for my users help that I'm asking this but as much as we like to say that other avenues of marketing do not compare once included in the dmoz directory. As you can see I already have a following but need more people to make the site well worth it.

If your users already know your URL, why would they want/need it to be listed in ODP? I have to tell you that this is a problem we've rarely if ever seen. We're people here, not machines, and we are quite capable of telling the difference between honest errors and directory abuse. Don't worry about it.

For more specific advice, please post in the Site Submission Status section complete with clickable link to category and URL.

I think this can be a huge problem --Especially with a website with a huge cult type following. You ask your guests to tell the world because you don't have the time to do so. So they start telling the world this would includes those that are web savvy that even know about dmoz would come here and request inclusion.

If submit resets anyones submission then obviously this could be used in a bad way too. Your competitor starts spamming the submission process with your url not only reseting your submission but soon ticking off the editor because YOU are spamming if they don't use ips there is no way to tell if it is u or not .

To tell you the truth this never struck me as an issue either until it came up in discussion on my message board about helping out with getting the word out.

And this is really not for a specific site it is mostly just rhetorical because I think I set all my users straight on the DMOZ rules. But I'm sure there are more sites out there that have fans that want the world to know as well.

and as for this question:If your users already know your URL, why would they want/need it to be listed in ODP? Obviously they want more people that share their interests--when I find a site I love I tell the world--don't u?

If submit resets anyones submission then obviously this could be used in a bad way too. Your competitor starts spamming the submission process with your url not only reseting your submission but soon ticking off the editor because YOU are spamming if they don't use ips there is no way to tell if it is u or not .

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Resubmissions to the same category overwrite the previous submission so there are no multiple submissions to annoy the editor. Yes, that changes the submission date but, since most editors do not review sites in chronological order, that isn't going to have much of an effect.

Though I have never tried to submit a site (because I dont have one :-(), isn't is easy to actually overcome the issue mentioned here ?

Does DMOZ not insist on an email confirmation for the site submission (if claimed to be the owner of the site) by sending a confirmation request to the postmaster email id or something similar. Can't that be done in case a site seems to be spammed and before there is a "near" penalty situation.

Just thinking aloud here.

Regards
Lopa

There's another conceptual hiatus here. In the Open Directory concept, we expect that the submitter will generally NOT be the site owner, but rather will be another surfer willing to help us by telling us about the neat site we don't yet have.

"Nearly spammed sites" are not the kinds of sites that inspire this kind of support.

We shouldn't talk about the exact mechanisms, procedures, triggers, criteria, etc., here: the less people know about them, the less effective (and more often counterproductive) any such attempts at sabotage will be.

The critical factor is: we have people looking at the submittals. And submittals have to be pretty abusive to cause rejections on their own account. Any honest commercial webmaster can prevent the problem from any possibility of happening, simply by following the natural inclination of any honest person -- that is, by setting up a website that clearly delineates the range and boundaries of his business. Thus, whoever submits any page of the site, the editor can easily track back to the home page and list it.

Information. Basic necessary business information. It's a perfect protection against people who would attempt to pervert the flow of information from you to surfers.