Where to submit Multilingual, Multibusiness site

I have a number of sites which are bilingual.
I also have a site which offers Web creation and also software consulting (this site is bilingual too).

Re multilingual sites: must I only submit once for the domain, or can I submit once for each language?

And for the content, iIf I can only submit to one category, how do I determine it? A parent category that covers both?

Thanks.

Assuming that you have a different versions of the same site content in multiple languages.

For English submit to the corrent category that is not in World.

For non-English submit again to the correct language for the equivalent category in http:\\dmoz.org\World\

You can submit once for each language without any problem.

You can submit a second time for English within Regional - if the site qualifies for that, generally brick and mortar locations for stire, businesse, etc.

In many cases, there will be a Regional within the language within World, for the other languages. e.g. World: Français: Régional: Europe: France: Commerce et économie

It is better to submit the main URL for each of the submissions, and make sure that the top page links to each language, do not submit the specific language page.

e.g use abc.com not abc.com\english

In theory site in three languages could submit to 6 categories.

For more information see http://dummies-guide-to-dmoz.org/multi_language.htm

What about language-based redirects?

Thanks for the Dummies link. The submission guideline scared me but good.

My default page for my domains typically (browser) redirects to a language subsite by looking at the language preference inthe HTTP headers.
Usually I also provide a menu item for manually switching.

From the submission guidelines, it seems the Redirecting page is not acceptable. So, should I submit the English URL when possible, else each individual language URL when not?

I understand the logic behind browser redirects based on Language, but I think it causes havoc for DMOZ editors. I only speak English, but I'm very language savvy and end up moving a lot of sites to the correct World language, I also make sure that multi language sites get a second copy sent to World. If I never see the other languages if the browser decides for me I can't do that.

Also a lot of editors are multi lingual, so they end up with the same problem. If an editor works on both French and German sites, and is forced to only see the French version, then you may not get reviewed correctly.

If you post your URL, you can get more specific advice from other editors in this forum - many are multi-lingual.

URLs

Here are two sites:
www.japancan.com
www.EastWestWebWorks.com (not quite ready to submit)

Both of these are in Japanese & English. One important reason for the language redirects is because most English visitors won't have the necessary font support for Japanese which makes the pages look a huge mess for them.

(What I used to do is provide a splash screen with language-selection buttons labeled with graphics instead of text to avoid the font issues. That's a useless extra screen and click for every visitor, so I don't do that any more.)

Thanks.

www.japancan.com is fine to submit the URL like that - it autoredirects to http://www.japancan.com/Site/home_en.htm, but it's clear from that page that a Japanese page exists, since the link is there. I can then go to that page [I have the fonts correctly], and can see that there is an English page. So I don't see any problems for editors to review it.

Same with the other site.

That's better than a lot of the multilingual sites I've seen where the navigation gets confusing, sometimes the other langauges are buried.

Yes, using HTTP to make things easier for the user but not hiding reality from them at the same time, definitely nice.

And yes, submit the bare domain name (e.g. japancan.com) to an English and a Japanese category; if there is a regional focus, submit also to an English and a Japanese Regional category.

For a website design + some-other-computer-related-service business, submit once to the best Web Design category, and mention your other services in your suggested description. The fact is, nearly everyone who does web design does some other diddley computer-or-media-related thing -- programming, website hosting, graphic design, business incorporation, wedding photography, contract murders (all right, maybe not wedding photography) -- never the same thing for two successive webdesigners, but always _something_. Hence the strict rule.

(Which, by the way, still applies if you own sixteen businesses, each with its own ledger, one for each of your services. If they share the same toothbrush, they share the same website, OK?)

7 diddleys need not apply

Ah, the old Diddleys? We don't need no steenking diddleys policy.

Got it - related diddleys need not apply (separately).


Thanks for all the advice for this ODP newbie.