Why the submitted site is not listed?

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anigalla.net

Hello all..

Once we submit the site, generally how long it takes to be listed in DMOZ ODP?
It's been few months by now, and still haven't listed yet..
and if we try to suggest the same site, it says something like
"this site is already in our records"
how to contact the support team from DMOZ?

any suggestions or info please?
please provide a link if it has been answered on this forum earlier..

thank you..
 

pvgool

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anigalla.net said:
and if we try to suggest the same site, it says something like
"this site is already in our records"
Are you sure it was DMOZ to which you suggested the site.
In all my years as an editor I have never seen or heard of such a message.
 
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anigalla.net

well, may be not the same sentence, coz i didn't copy+paste the message as i faced this situation few weeks ago.. so, waited again till date and still can't find it listed. so trying my luck by submitting again..
 

pvgool

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anigalla.net said:
.... so trying my luck by submitting again..
Why?
The FAQ (and DMOZ guidelines) clearly state that there is no reason to suggest a site more than once.
 

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I think there's a major misunderstanding lurking under the hood here.

A lot of people think site submittals are what gets listings. And it isn't true, it's barely even false.

Because if submittals got listings, then more submittals would get more listings (or at least more chances for one listing.)

But reality is the exact opposite. More submittals get less listings, or at least lower the chances of getting one listing.

So, whenever you catch yourself thinking "I want a listing bad, I'll suggest the site again", then say to yourself, "I'm in a different reality from the ODP, and there are no possible channels of communication between them. There's no point in trying anything right now, because nothing will work. But who knows? In some future, I may visit some reality that is distantly related to the ODP. And if I still have something to suggest to them, I can do it then."
 
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hutcheson said:
A lot of people think site submittals are what gets listings. And it isn't true, it's barely even false.

no we are not.. we don't think like the above..

if you know that your site has been rejected and will never be reviewed again you won't submit again..

if you know that your site has been rejected but ODP will review it back quarterly once to check the eligibility to be listed.. then you won't submit again..

if you know that your site hasn't been reviewed yet, but it takes 3 to 6 months and then you'll be notified.. then you won't submit again..

etc., etc., etc.,

but finally..

whatever it is.. "don't submit again", submit and forget.. submit and forget.. submit and forget..

this song goes on..

when you are fed up with ODP, "Hail ODP.."
that's all you can do.. btw, don't think that it will make your site to be listed.. :) hahaha..
 

pvgool

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It is quit simple.
After a website is suggested it can have one of these status

1) It is reviewed and as a result it is listed => no need to suggest it again
2) It is reviewed and rejected => no need to suggest it again.
If a site is unlistable suggesting it again won't make it listable.
3) The site is not reviewed yet => no need to suggest it again
Once a site is suggested it will never disappear from the pool of suggested sites until it is either listed (1) or rejected (2).

That is why we say: suggest a site only once
 
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pvgool said:
It is quit simple.
for them whose site has been listed :D

After a website is suggested it can have one of these status

pvgool said:
1) It is reviewed and as a result it is listed => no need to suggest it again
we know that and we don't do that
pvgool said:
2) It is reviewed and rejected => no need to suggest it again.
If a site is unlistable suggesting it again won't make it listable.
ODP should understand that a site which is unlistable:eek: can be improved for various reasons and can be listbale:eek: reverse to this also can happen.. today's good site can become obsolete after few years..
So, that is what we asked on the above post.. is there any periodical reviews on the sites that are being rejected (or) If you don't do that, it is natural that people will resubmit to you..
pvgool said:
3) The site is not reviewed yet => no need to suggest it again
Once a site is suggested it will never disappear from the pool of suggested sites until it is either listed (1) or rejected (2).
fine.. this site is not reviewed it.. so when it is going to be?? after the death of someone's great grand son? does anyone on this earth know the status?

pvgool said:
That is why we say: suggest a site only once
:eek::eek::eek: that is why we are singing you song.. "submit and forget.. submit and forget.. submit and forget.."
 
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One small example to all the blind reviewers..

Antagonistic post removed. Shouting at editors is just plain rude.
 

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You might have misunderstood our objectives and how we operate here. ODP is a volunteer organisation building a directory as a hobby. Editors edit where they wish, when they wish and as much as they wish within the constraints of their permissions. We have no schedules or systems to force people to do work that they don't volunteer to do. ODP is not primarily a free listing service for website owners and it does not attempt to process their listing suggestions within the time scales desired by them.

Some volunteer will process your listing suggestion in time but we can't predict who or when that might be. Elapsed times can range from a few days to a few years. There is no need to re-suggest your website and doing so could be counter-productive because a later suggestion overwrites any earlier one.

Thread closed. Do not start another one on the same topic.
 
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