Will DMOZ ever change its listing policy

wildkholly

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I think DMOZ is an amazing resource. I was just wondering if they will ever change their listing policies. Some areas do not have editors and its like falling into the black hole when needing to get listed. Joant is successful in their listing process. Just curious If I have a site that just is not getting listed after 6 months -- is the answer that it will never get listed?
 

pvgool

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If DMOZ would ever change the listing policy it wouldn't be DMOZ anymore. So. No, it woný change.
DMOZ is very clear on which sites it will list and which it won't.
It is also very clear that all listable sites can and will be listed.
The only thing that is not certain is when a site will be listed.
With the millions of sites that are not listed yet it can be years from now that a specific site will be listed.
On the other had, there will also be sites listed within the next hour.
Noone knows when a site will be listed.

> f I have a site that just is not getting listed after 6 months -- is the answer that it will never get listed?
Nope. The time a site was created or the time a site was suggested have no influence at all on the time when a site will be listed.
I personaly have listed sites that were suggested 3 or 4 years before.
 

hutcheson

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If I have a site that just is not getting listed after 6 months -- is the answer that it will never get listed?

That's not an interesting question. Here's why. Logically, the answer _has_ to be the same to any question of the same form, regardless of the time interval involved.

So, try to imagine a single useful answer that accurately and usefully applies to all three of these questions:

If I have a site that just is not getting listed after 6 milliseconds -- is the answer that it will never get listed?

If I have a site that just is not getting listed after 6 months -- is the answer that it will never get listed?

If I have a site that just is not getting listed after 6 millenia -- is the answer that it will never get listed?

If you don't mind a useful but possibly-false answer, I'd suggest that your suspicion is correct: assume that, indeed, the website won't ever get listed, and make all further decisions based on that assumption. If your assumption is right, your actions will be right. And--if your assumption is wrong, your actions will STILL be right.

Of course, whenever you see yourself in that position, it's also obvious that you're asking perfectly irrelevant questions and making unnecessary assumptions.

Which is one of the reasons we stopped answering questions about when a website might be listed--the answer really wasn't relevant: it really didn't affect any practical decisions.
 

Johnpaul1

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Hi all,

I submitted my url to DMOZ.com but after 6 months it's not listed on Dmoz.com.

What shall i do in order to get listed on Domz.com
Please Help.


Regards
John Paul
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exitguides

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Hutcheson,
That is one of the most condescending, and useless answers to a question that you, as a moderator, should at least consider to be somewhat valid. The question is simple; to paraphrase the OP, "it's been a long time since I submitted my site. It's still not listed. Since DMOZ doesn't send out rejection letters, should I assume that my site was rejected and won't be listed?"

Pretty valid question. With an aloof moderator answer. My question to you. Why did you waste your effort to come up with a useless argument about semantics when you could have been catching up on listing sites?

Your response is borderline offensive to me. I don't think it is unreasonable for webmasters to wonder why it takes up to 4 years to get listed in an "open" directory. If the goal is to catalogue the internet accurately, but sites that have high PR and have been around for years still aren't listed, isn't that something that we can be concerned about? I've had a request in for 6 years and I'm still not listed. My business is one of the few of its kind in Alaska, but I'm not listed. My competitors are listed, even though many of them have younger websites than mine. It doesn't seem right that the get a high value link to their site, but I get nothing. To further the frustration, moderators like you openly treat users with scorn and disdain in the forums. That sucks. Check your attitude and realize that we're stuck in a rather frustrating situation with very little opportunity for support or feedback.
 

pvgool

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Hutcheson,
That is one of the most condescending, and useless answers to a question that you, as a moderator, should at least consider to be somewhat valid. The question is simple; to paraphrase the OP, "it's been a long time since I submitted my site. It's still not listed. Since DMOZ doesn't send out rejection letters, should I assume that my site was rejected and won't be listed?"
I though Hutcheson's answer to be very accurate. It tried to make people think about the question they ask. We can ofcourse give the same answer over and over again to people who do not bother to read similar questions asked in other threads. We are still wondering why people think their situation is different enough from other peoples situation that makes them ask the same question.

Pretty valid question. With an aloof moderator answer. My question to you. Why did you waste your effort to come up with a useless argument about semantics when you could have been catching up on listing sites?
You seem to misunderstand what a DMOZ editor is and what he does.

I don't think it is unreasonable for webmasters to wonder why it takes up to 4 years to get listed in an "open" directory. If the goal is to catalogue the internet accurately, but sites that have high PR and have been around for years still aren't listed, isn't that something that we can be concerned about?
Correct. There is no reason for concern as it is not DMOZ intention to list suggested websites. DMOZ is about collecting information (in the form of described links to websites) about all kind of subjects an to present them to our users. It is much more important for us to search for websites about underdeveloped subjects than to review suggested websites about subjects that already have several dozen of links. But each editor has his/her own points of interest. One editor might want to collect as many websites as he can find for a single subject another editor might want to develop a category for a subject we do not cover yet. Both are helping to build the directory. And both might use the pool of suggested websites. But they also might ignore that pool completely. Suggested websites are just one out of many sources for us to find listable websites. And to be honest many times the suggested websites are not so good a source as others.

I've had a request in for 6 years and I'm still not listed. My business is one of the few of its kind in Alaska, but I'm not listed. My competitors are listed, even though many of them have younger websites than mine. It doesn't seem right that the get a high value link to their site, but I get nothing.
DMOZ is not interested in PR, age of the website and stuff like that. We are also not interested in the imaginary boost a listing should give to a website.

To further the frustration, moderators like you openly treat users with scorn and disdain in the forums. That sucks. Check your attitude and realize that we're stuck in a rather frustrating situation with very little opportunity for support or feedback.
To me your frustration seems to be the result of a complete misunderstanding about what DMOZ is.
People who suggest websites are not users they are providers.
DMOZ does not provide any service to people who suggest websites.
 
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