"with www" and "no www"

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killua

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• Jul 7, 2004

• #1

I don't know if this is the right forum to post my question.

Last month, my website is showing on Google SERPS as http://domain.netfirms.com/ .
But last week, Google made a major crawl and it became http://www.domain.netfirms.com/ .
Why does this happen? I read many articles that Google recognize this pages as different URLs. I have more inbound links for non-www version and it have higher PR which is 1 compare to 0 with the www version. Because of this, the non-www versions should be listed.

I can't do a 301 redirect because my host don't support it. It's hard for me to change and pay for new host.
Please, if anyone knows how to resolve this problem, I'll greatly appreciate it.

 

pvgool

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• Jul 7, 2004

• #2

Sorry, we can only answer questions about ODP.
You will have to ask this question in an other forum.

 

Callimachus

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• Jul 8, 2004

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Most web servers are configured so that there is no difference between www.x.y.z.com and x.y.z.com. There are exceptions.

Either your host's server taked the www on automatically, or google did. In either case you should direct your question to them.

 

thehelper

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• Jul 10, 2004

• #4

Try asking your question here

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=...&safe=off&group=google.public.support.general

Hope this helps.

 

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kh80

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• Jul 11, 2004

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thehelper said:

Try asking your question here

http://groups.google.com/groups?group=google.public.support.general

Click to expand...

Again?

BTW, you also can't find any www.dmoz.org link on the result pages anymore.

Greetings,
Karsten

 

thehelper

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• Jul 11, 2004

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I am afraid there is no easy answer to this that I can see. Since you can't do a 301 redirect you are hard pressed to even change servers. What I would do is go and buy my own domain name then pay the 10 bucks or less a month for webspace on a regular web server then put up a big link on my old page that says WE HAVE MOVED that links to the new website. I would do this ASAP. I would then send an email to all the sites that link to my old web address and ask them to please update there links to the new address. That is the only solution I can suggest for you.

Hope this helps

 

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• Jul 19, 2004

• #7

Your host is accepting both urls

You should not have a problem as long as both of the links work. (they do)



"BTW, you also can't find any www.dmoz.org link on the result pages anymore.

Greetings,
Karsten"

I notice the same thing with my website also http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=www.globalwebmonitor.com
It worked a week or so ago and i checked it this morning and got no results.
must be dance time.

 

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killua

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• Jul 20, 2004

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Yes, few days ago and yesterday, I checked my website again on Google and it is now showing on the SERPS without the www version. I was very thankful that it happened.

BUT TODAY, it happened again. It is listed as www version. Maybe a Google dance? What do you think?

Yeah. Google is not listing some DMOZ links on Google. Will this affect your ranking?

 

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killua

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• Jul 24, 2004

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Now, it works agains. I think it's just a google dance.

 

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• Jul 30, 2004

• #10

It's really not a problem, since most web servers are set to point both www.domain.com and domain.com to the same place. It doesn't make any difference to how your site is viewed.

 

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• Jul 30, 2004

• #11

Indeed. And, more relevant to this forum, it has no effect whatsoever on your ODP listing.

 

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iKwak

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• Aug 5, 2004

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Some sites have different PR for URL with www. and without the www.
I don't get it.

 

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hutcheson

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• Aug 5, 2004

• #13

That is a question for the Google experts, and outside the scope of this forum.

Your life would have been simpler if you'd done things right from the beginning -- and never put that totally useless code-bloat "www." in ANY of your links.

 

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• Aug 6, 2004

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with and without the www

In my experience, I prefer to use www in my links. I have the same PR with and without the www at both my sites: Eric Bland feel free to take a look if this helps you. Copyright Website Bland

 

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Ricky

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• Sep 10, 2004

• #15

Well from my view google treat www and without www as link from same site.. not sure about treating as different page or single page !

 

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Eric Bland

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• Sep 13, 2004

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They are treated as separate pages, but the same site.
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• Sep 25, 2004

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^^ which is why the pagerank can differ greatly. If you've got all your inbound links coming to www.something.com, google perceives something.com as a different page of the same site, with no inbound links.