www.free-financial-advice.net

Hi,

I submitted the site http://www.free-financial-advice.net/ to ODP about 3 months ago. I submitted it to:
http://dmoz.org/Home/Personal_Finance/Money_Management/

Also, after not hearing back, I submitted 2 other deeplink pages from the site (one was reviewed and rejected). I know now that I shouldn't have submitted anything but my homepage, so apologize in advance if I look like a spammer.

Can someone do a status check for me? And also, if anyone has any other comments that will better my chances of getting into the ODP directory, I'd appreciate them!
 

Thanks for your feedback! Are you saying it's bad to have affiliate links or bad to use the mouseover function?

I keep the affiliate links away from my home page and they are links that people that read my content are looking for. I use the mouseover function so that inexperienced users aren't confused by the tracking URLs, not to dupe people. My content is loved by my visitors and I provide a free service of advice (see the financial example pages: http://www.free-financial-advice.net/financial-examples.html).
 

old_crone

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Let me ask you a question, something I have often wondered about. Why don't you offer your users links to financial services that aren't referral links or affiliate partnerships? Why only list the ones you can make money on when your site is about FREE advice or financial information? Why not give them a full range of lending/financial service links with comparable descriptions?

"I use the mouseover function so that inexperienced users aren't confused by the tracking URLs, not to dupe people."

The inexperienced user will never notice the tracking URLs to become confused about.
 

old crone,

to answer your question: "Why not give them a full range of lending/financial service links with comparable descriptions?"

My visitors already have a wide selection of services to choose from on my site, and besides, the reason they come to my site is for advice, not links to other services. And the reason most of the links are affiliate links is so that I can pay for the web hosting, domain names and for the time and research it takes me to give the free advice. If you'd ask the 100 plus visitors that I've personally helped in the last two months, I think they'd say it was a pretty fair tradeoff.
 

old_crone

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Thank you but you really didn't answer my question. Personally, I have no problem with a webmaster trying to earn money from his/her website through affiliate links. What does bother me is that they don't offer non-affiliate links also, which would be of benefit to the end user.

From my perspective a site like this appears to be built around the affiliate links. It isn't that these affiliates aren't helpful or even useful, it's that they are redundant. Unique content is a subjective term and I didn't find anything unique about your site. That doesn't mean that I don't believe you have helped your users. It would have been unique and refreshing to have seen non-affiliate links in the mix.
 

hutcheson

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Old Crone, surprising as it may seem, the ODP doesn't dislike affiliate links. One of the slogans that comes up in the editors' forum every now and then is "we don't care about the business model." (What we care about is the information flow model.)

What editors do despise and abhor is sites that consist of nothing but affiliate links, or appear to be created as a framework of affiliate links with a very thin, very transparent veneer of content conjoining infelicitous plagiarism and facile misunderstanding. We see a lot of them; and (I at least) simply leave a note like "affiliate spam". But it is not the presence of the affiliate tag that raises ire, but the conclusion that the whole site is nothing but a walking advertisement for one or more commercial off-site links (with or without affiliate tags, although "with" is by far the more common case.) What we especially abhor is sites that pretend to be doing business as "John Doe's Universal Emporium" but turn out to be nothing but "John Doe's Advertisement Page for ubiquitous-affiliate-emporium-program.com".

If a site has unique content that is valuable and unique to someone who never clicks on any of the affiliate links, then I'll list it happily. Example: someone published a little "Dictionary of Religion." Later on, they brought out a second edition and created a website that included a complete e-text of the first edition, and a link to buy a printed copy of the second edition. Did I even look at that "purchase" link to see whether it had an affiliate tag? Nay, not so, but far otherwise: I'd have published the site happily without that link, and I published it just as happily with it.

A "financial advice" site should be judged analogously. If (in the judgment of the editor, preferably the same editor that's looked at the last 200 "Financial Advice" sites) it has unique and useful tips (rather than the all-too-common general platitudes parodied in the Monty Python skit -- "How to cure all the world's diseases...") AND if the unique content is easily found at the site (rather than having to guess which ONE of the 50 banners ISN'T the affiliate link, like some of the porn doorways do) then the mere presence of an offsite link, even with a disguised affiliate tag, shouldn't prejudice the review.

[Note: I have carefully NOT looked at this site, IN ORDER THAT NONE of the details above could be understood as specifically relevant to it; in fact, I'm sure that some aren't specifically relevant.]
 

totalxsive

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Having looked at the site, I would say this was worthy of inclusion, because, bar the odd affiliate link, it offers a lot of useful information.

However, I don't usually edit in that particular area so I couldn't do a proper review. The decision over whether the site is included will be made by the editors of those categories.
 

old_crone

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hutcheson, you expressed the problem with most sites built around affiliate programs very well. Thank you.

I guess my problem with this particular site is that it proclaims to be a financial information/advice service but only endorses affiliates to met his users needs. But I'm not the reviewing editor, of which he can be grateful for because I would decline its inclusion into the directory.
 

totalxsive / hutcheson,

Thanks for the comments. I guess I'll continue to wait to see if my site has been reviewed.

Also, a note to whichever editor reviews the site: I'd be more than willing to change my site so that it more closely meets your standards. In fact, I'd love to get some feedback from whoever reviews it. Even if it is rejected, I'd like to know why so I can continue to improve it. The hard part for me is that I don't know if it's already been reviewed and rejected, and if it has, I have no idea why.

Again, thanks to the editors that took time to post on this string!
 
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