Guest Posted October 15, 2002 Posted October 15, 2002 A competitor of mine has submitted HUNDREDS of geocities sites (all copy and paste type sites) into various categories of ODP (these sites are non commercial and have nothing to do with his line of business). After the submission has been accepted, he adds hundreds of spammy links at the bottom of these pages to his primary site. The links to his own primary site are completely off topic and are meant only for the spiders, namely Googlebot. These links from sites in ODP are giving him an unfair boost in the SE results. ODP's guidelines state "Don't submit sites consisting largely of affiliate links". Wouldn't these be considered affiliate links? Here is an example: http://www.geocities.com/onetoomanyd/
giz Posted October 15, 2002 Posted October 15, 2002 Please send a list of Categories and Sites to your favorite Meta Editor (don't use the dmoz staff feedback link - there is only 2 overworked people on the end of that), and this will be thoroughly looked into.
Guest Posted October 15, 2002 Posted October 15, 2002 >>>favorite Meta Editor I don't have one, any recommendations?
apeuro Posted October 15, 2002 Posted October 15, 2002 Send your list to me. I'm already looking into this.
Guest Posted October 16, 2002 Posted October 16, 2002 I don't see hundreds, but there were some others findable like that one... I look forward to seeing how many of these got into ODP.
old_crone Posted October 16, 2002 Posted October 16, 2002 I don't see hundreds Did you loose your glasses or get tired of scrolling down the page? <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /> There are literally hundreds of links to a concert ticketing site.
Guest Posted October 16, 2002 Posted October 16, 2002 I didn't find hundreds of spammy geocities sites, that's what I meant.
old_crone Posted October 16, 2002 Posted October 16, 2002 ohhhhhhhhhh <img src="/images/icons/blush.gif" alt="" />
Khym_Chanur Posted October 16, 2002 Posted October 16, 2002 Hmmm, a search on Google for sites linking to concertticketinsider.com lists 29 sites, all on Geocities.com, about 9 of which are in Dmoz, and all of which seem to include the link stuffing.
Guest kartik Posted October 16, 2002 Posted October 16, 2002 hi apeuro, This might help you. It is form google linkto i have not checked in dmoz.org the "not listed" might be "listed" in dmoz www.geocities.com/rezcheats/ not listed yet www.geocities.com/shadowman2cheats/ Listed and removed Games/Video_Games/Platform/Shadow_Man www.geocities.com/darkcloudcheats Listed in Games/Video_Games/Roleplaying/D/Dark_Cloud_Series/Dark_Cloud/Cheats_and_Hints www.geocities.com/grandtheftauto3cheats/ digitalcable.html not listed www.geocities.com/devilmaycrycheats/ not listed www.geocities.com/genma_onimusha/ not listed www.geocities.com/grandtheftauto3cheats/ not listed www.geocities.com/stateofemergencycheats/ Listed Games/Video_Games/Action/State_of_Emergency www.geocities.com/maximoghoststoglory/screenshots.html not listed www.geocities.com/maxpaynecheats/ not listed www.geocities.com/metalgearsolid2cheats/ not listed www.geocities.com/icocheats/ not listed www.geocities.com/onetoomanyd/ not listed www.geocities.com/starwarsrogueleader/ Listed in Games/Video_Games/Action/Space_Combat/Star_Wars_Games/Rogue_Squadron_Series/Rogue_Leader www.geocities.com/devilmaycrycheats/walkthrough not listed www.geocities.com/virtuafighter4cheats/screenshots not listed www.geocities.com/gameboyadvancecheatcodes/ Listed in Kids_and_Teens/Games/Computer_and_Video/Nintendo/GameBoy/ www.geocities.com/virtuafighter4cheats/ not listed www.geocities.com/bloodomen2cheats/ Listed Games/Video_Games/Roleplaying/L/Legacy_of_Kain_Series/Blood_Omen_2/ www.geocities.com/soulreaver2cheats/ not listed www.geocities.com/silenthill2cheats/ not listed www.geocities.com/fatalframecheats/ not listed www.geocities.com/gcnmelee/ Listed in Games/Video_Games/Fighting/Super_Smash_Brothers_Series/Melee www.geocities.com/spidermanmoviecheats/ Listed in Games/Video_Games/Action/Spider-Man_Series/Spider-Man_-_The_Movie/ www.geocities.com/maximoghoststoglory/ not listed www.geocities.com/dynastywarriors3cheats/ not listed www.geocities.com/playstation2cheatcodes/ not listed www.geocities.com/halocheats/ not listed www.geocities.com/computercheatss/time_crisis_2_cheats Listed in Games/Video_Games/Shooter/Time_Crisis_Series/Time_Crisis_2 <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" />
Guest Posted October 16, 2002 Posted October 16, 2002 Thanks for the work Kartik! Many of the ones you have labeled "not listed" are in DMOZ. When you go to the site look at the backwards links form google. Also these 'dmoz sites' mainly link to interior pages of concerticketinsider.com You find find more if you search: 'link:http://www.concertticketinsider.com/sandiegochargersfootballtickets.html' in google. Here are the ones I have found that have made it in: http://www.geocities.com/rezcheats/ http://www.geocities.com/shadowman2cheats/ http://www.geocities.com/darkcloudcheats/ http://www.geocities.com/devilmaycrycheats/ http://www.geocities.com/genma_onimusha/ http://www.geocities.com/stateofemergencycheats/ http://www.geocities.com/maximoghoststoglory/ http://www.geocities.com/metalgearsolid2cheats/ http://www.geocities.com/gameboyadvancecheatcodes/ http://www.geocities.com/virtuafighter4cheats/ http://www.geocities.com/bloodomen2cheats/ http://www.geocities.com/soulreaver2cheats/ http://www.geocities.com/silenthill2cheats/ http://www.geocities.com/fatalframecheats/ http://www.geocities.com/gcnmelee/ http://www.geocities.com/spidermanmoviecheats/ http://www.geocities.com/dynastywarriors3cheats/ http://www.geocities.com/playstation2cheatcodes/ http://www.geocities.com/halocheats/ http://www.geocities.com/computercheatss/time_crisis_2_cheats http://www.geocities.com/onetoomanyd/ These are the same but not in directory (yet): http://www.geocities.com/grandtheftauto3cheats/digitalcable.html http://www.geocities.com/grandtheftauto3cheats/ http://www.geocities.com/maxpaynecheats/ http://www.geocities.com/icocheats/ <added>Maybe I got a little carried away with the 'hundreds' <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /></added>
apeuro Posted October 16, 2002 Posted October 16, 2002 The owner of these websites was dealt with a while ago. As soon as the directory is back up and functioning, I'll go and delete the sites.
old_crone Posted October 16, 2002 Posted October 16, 2002 Kristopher77 You really should concider reporting this to yahoo's geocities. They have rules against this kind of abuse.
Guest Posted October 17, 2002 Posted October 17, 2002 Do you know where I can contact them? <added>Just found it! http://abuse.yahoo.com/</added>
old_crone Posted October 18, 2002 Posted October 18, 2002 I think this will be better for geocities abuse. Abuse Form Just give them one url where they ask for it and put the rest in the text box, or tell them how to find all the others.
Meta hutcheson Posted October 18, 2002 Meta Posted October 18, 2002 This is perhaps an unusual form, but IMO it still counts as "bait and switch" tactics -- the Directory equivalent to Search engine cloaking. And our reaction to this is like Google's reaction to cloaking: Ban the site, and other sites related to the same parties, until the heat death of the universe.
apeuro Posted October 18, 2002 Posted October 18, 2002 until the heat death of the universe. Or for those of us who desperately desire to show we still remember physics - entropy.
Guest Posted October 18, 2002 Posted October 18, 2002 Thanks, that is a better form. Just reported it.
Guest Posted November 13, 2002 Posted November 13, 2002 Hi Apero, As soon as the directory is back up and functioning, I'll go and delete the sites. I am still seeing the sites in the Directory. Is it back up and running again? Thanks again, Kris
totalxsive Posted November 13, 2002 Posted November 13, 2002 Yes, it is, and yes the sites were deleted. If you're using the search facility to find these sites bear in mind that the search index was last updated at the end of September.
Guest rejection Posted November 14, 2002 Posted November 14, 2002 Just as a final nail in the coffin, it looks like Google has banned the main site anyway PR0 - white bar ie go buy a new domain time!
yogenmaniyar Posted September 25, 2004 Posted September 25, 2004 Google demoting sites Hello ! How do you confirm if G is purposely demoting your site?
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