rferraro Posted April 2, 2004 Posted April 2, 2004 Hello, Can you tell me the status of: http://www.visualhindsight.com/ I asked it be placed in the following category: http://dmoz.org/Business/Business_Services/Security/Products_and_Equipment/Surveillance/ Thanks, rferraro - Visual Hindsight
yapuka Posted April 2, 2004 Posted April 2, 2004 [readme]readme[/readme] Wait at least a month after you last submitted your site to start a thread here asking about its status. Last suggest date: 22/Mar/2004
rferraro Posted April 29, 2004 Author Posted April 29, 2004 [readme]readme[/readme] Last suggest date: 22/Mar/2004 Hello, I'm inquiring again about the status of my site: http://www.visualhindsight.com/ I asked it be placed in the following category: http://dmoz.org/Business/Business_S...t/Surveillance/ Thanks, rferraro - Visual Hindsight
rferraro Posted May 21, 2004 Author Posted May 21, 2004 Site Status Inquiry, www.VisualHindsight.com Hello, I'm inquiring again about the status of my site: http://www.visualhindsight.com/ I asked it be placed in the following category: http://dmoz.org/Business/Business_S...t/Surveillance/ Thanks, rferraro - Visual Hindsight
donwiebe Posted May 22, 2004 Posted May 22, 2004 The submission has been received and is awaiting review.
rferraro Posted June 29, 2004 Author Posted June 29, 2004 How long before review? Hi, Is it possible to know how long it will be before my site is reviewd? Thanks, Robert Ferraro http://www.visualhindsight.com/
giz Posted June 30, 2004 Posted June 30, 2004 Do you think that that question might have ever been asked before? It is inconceivable that none of the 100 000 prior posts in this forum has ever covered that. A forum search would have turned up: http://resource-zone.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=17647 for example.
rferraro Posted June 30, 2004 Author Posted June 30, 2004 Dear hutcheson and giz... Dear hutcheson and giz, In reply to your retorts to my earlier post: >>> (hutcheson) No, it is not. Ever. Thank you for getting to the point so succinctly. >>> (giz) Do you think that that question might have ever been asked before? It is inconceivable that none of the 100 000 prior posts in this forum has ever covered that... I'm not aware of, and not particularly concerned with, the number of posts the DMOZ forum receives. I asked a simple question to anyone who might be listening, and who would care to take the time to answer. I've been waiting 4 months to have my site listed on DMOZ; in that time, I've posted 4 questions. From my point of view, the questions are entirely appropriate and valid, and are not so inane they can be considered a waste of anyone's time. I'm seriously considering becoming an editor at DMOZ. If I should decide to contribute my time, I hope to do so with more tolerance, grace, and kindness than I've been shown so far. I will especially avoid giving the impression, by word or tone, that my time is too valuable to waste on "trivial" requests, or that the supplicant should "know better" than to ask such a question. Most importantly, I'll recognize and take into account that a significant percentage of requests come from small business owners hoping to enhance their market presence, and that a listing on DMOZ could possibly affect their livelihood. >>> (giz) A forum search would have turned up: http://resource-zone.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=17647 for example. Yes, thank you, a very useful link indeed. The only way, in my opinion, that it might have been more useful is if it been delivered in a less admonishing tone. - Robert Ferraro
rferraro Posted August 24, 2004 Author Posted August 24, 2004 Hello, I submitted my site in April 2004. Can you tell me the status of: www.VisualHindsight.com I asked it be placed in the Business category: Thanks, Robert Ferraro - Visual Hindsight
bobrat Posted August 24, 2004 Posted August 24, 2004 Please review again the forum guidelines referred to in post #2, regarding the six month wait before asking again about your site.
rferraro Posted January 10, 2005 Author Posted January 10, 2005 Hello, I submitted my site in April 2004. Can you tell me the status of: http://www.VisualHindsight.com I asked it be placed in: Business Thanks, Robert Ferraro - Visual Hindsight
Editall/Catmv arubin Posted January 10, 2005 Editall/Catmv Posted January 10, 2005 I see no change in status. Sorry not to have better news.
rferraro Posted February 8, 2005 Author Posted February 8, 2005 No Change In Status? What does this mean, no change in status? How many years will it take to have someone either approve or decline my submission? I submitted last April -- that's over 10 months ago... Can someone please take charge of my dossier and bring it to a conclusion? Thank you. Robert Ferraro.
uzs980 Posted February 8, 2005 Posted February 8, 2005 http://resource-zone.com/forum/faq.php?faq=odp#faq_how_long
rferraro Posted February 8, 2005 Author Posted February 8, 2005 Confused I don't understand -- where you're pointing me to says: "So the preferred method is now to suggest the site to the category and wait at least a month." ???
uzs980 Posted February 8, 2005 Posted February 8, 2005 Your question: How many years will it take to have someone either approve or decline my submission? FAQ answer: The time between submission and an editorial review ranges anywhere from two minutes to over two years. This is due to the voluntary nature of the ODP - editors volunteer their time free of charge to do what they can to build the directory. You may come back to this thread after six months to ask for another update. However I can't guarantee that your site will have been reviewed then.
rferraro Posted February 8, 2005 Author Posted February 8, 2005 Thanks Thanks for the invitation to check in again in 6 months, but at this point, rather than stay on the "pending review" list, I would prefer to remove my submission. Is this possible? Robert Ferraro.
uzs980 Posted February 8, 2005 Posted February 8, 2005 If you want to prevent your site from being listed in our directory, you should remove your site from the internet. But I don't really understand why you want your site not to get listed.
spectregunner Posted February 8, 2005 Posted February 8, 2005 No. Since we don't depend upon suggestions in building the directory, we have no mechanism to remove suggestions. The logic is impeccable. Since we encourage editors to break any reliance they have upon suggestions and to engage in exploration-based category building, a very good percentage of sites that get added are done so on editor initiative. People who have never even heard of the directory end up getting listed, and many of them go through life never knowing that they are listed. People who suggest a site (be they a site woner or just a fan) and then grow impatient are of no concern to us. We never promised a speedy review, so from our perspective, having them ask to remove a suggestion is a non-starter. The suggestion is there. We will get to it when we get to it. If it merits a listing, it will get listed. If it does not merit a listing, it will not. If someone chooses not to come back for a follow-up check, all it means is there is one less posting to read an answer.
rferraro Posted February 9, 2005 Author Posted February 9, 2005 A Matter Of Perspective... The logic is impeccable from your point of view only, I’m afraid. From my perspective, it sounds more like “take it or leave it”, “like it or lump it”. I realize it’s less than useless engaging in this type of rhetoric—it’s the result of frustration and does nothing more than waste your time and mine. I only wish responses to valid queries would be of a more…responsive nature, and would actually help us determine our standing in queue; not to mention that in several instances, well-intended and well-natured questions have been replied to in a brusque and in certain cases down right rude manner. There is no plausible excuse for that, is there? I am a small business owner hoping to enhance my market presence through a listing at DMOZ, as it would probably impact my livelihood in a positive way. Yes, I know—there are many, many others like me, but again, from my perspective, it’s much more personal and pressing. In conclusion, since I’m apparently powerless to receive an informative answer regarding my listing, ditto having my submission removed (I choose to pass on the suggestion I remove my site from the Internet in order to be effectively removed from the DMOZ queue), I'll say no more on the subject—unless, of course, DMOZ rules oblige me to keep corresponding? Just kidding, I’m sure…
bobrat Posted February 9, 2005 Posted February 9, 2005 help us determine our standing in queueThe problem is that everyone thinks there is a queue. As long as you maintain that view of ODP, you are guaranteed to be disappointed, and nothing we do will keep you happy. Ther is no standing in the queue because there is no queue - just think of it a giant pile of suggestions that we might look at. Queues imply that: Sites are reviewed in order - they are not We give some kind of priority to sites submitted first - we do not Sites will eventually be reviewed - probably but not guaranteed When you get served someone will talk to you - we don't After you have been served - you are aware of it - we don't send out any notifications Nobody can jump in line ahead of us - yes, they can, and we actually go and grab people off the street and serve them first If you leave the line you will not get served - you can't leave the line Well-intended and well-natured questions have been replied to in a brusque and in certain cases down right rude manner. After five thousand people post the same question - which is answered by either the FAQ or the posting guidelines - because they don't spend enough time looking for the answer - I'm not sure what the answer is supposed to be. Hang around the internet for a while, and you will find in most forums - questions like that get heavily flamed - with RTFM as it would probably impact my livelihood in a positive way. That may or may not be true, but the cold hard brutal facts are that we are not here to help your busines survive, we are not a listing service. In fact, if you are depending on a listing in ODP to help your business - that would be a good reason not to list your site, since you will be defunct, bankrupt and out of business and an editor will later on have to go and spend the time removing your site listing.
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