poopertropper Posted April 20, 2004 Posted April 20, 2004 I'm just looking for the status of another site of mine at http://www.web-design-database.com http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Web_Design_and_Development/Promotion/Chats_and_Forums/ Thanks so Much
bobrat Posted April 20, 2004 Posted April 20, 2004 I'm afraid to say that at this time it does not have enough content to list.
poopertropper Posted April 20, 2004 Author Posted April 20, 2004 So can I resubmit? How much content does a site need when it is just a forum and directory? Please inform me when I can resubmit and how much content a forum would need. I am a bit confused Thanks
bobrat Posted April 20, 2004 Posted April 20, 2004 Forums are always caught in a catch 22. We won't list forums that are just starting out, since we don't consider they have enough content to be usefull to the users of ODP. From your point of view, you will be fristrated, since you want to get listed in ODP, in order to publicize your forum so that it atracts people that will post messages and give it content.
poopertropper Posted April 20, 2004 Author Posted April 20, 2004 So how many people do we need? We have 30 already that post new content everyday. I would think that would be a big enough comminity to warrent a spont in the directory. If not then am I allowed to submit again? I dont want to be banned so I need to know how many people I would need, and also if and when I am able to resubmit. This is a catch 22, I can't promote without this directory.
Alucard Posted April 20, 2004 Posted April 20, 2004 You most definitely can promote without the ODP. There are other directories, reciprocal links, messages posted on other fora... As for a concrete number - it's all down to editorial judgement, I'm afraid. Cos it's not just that someone is posting, it's that someone is obviously making USEFUL posts. Get the picture? This is why the ODP believes that "humans do it better" - you put fixed numbers on it and you can still end up with garbage listed.
poopertropper Posted April 20, 2004 Author Posted April 20, 2004 Wow, I cant believe they dont think my members are making useful post. I guess I have to wait and see. But then can someone answer my question. When can I resubmit? Where do I go from here!
spectregunner Posted April 20, 2004 Posted April 20, 2004 You are not going to get a hard and fast number from us, because there is no such thing. Take a look at other forums that are in our directory. Do they ahve tens of posts? Hundreds of posts? Thousands of posts? Tens of thousands of posts? We are looking for critical mass, something about which a surfer can say: "Wow, that site had a lot of really useful posts."
Meta hutcheson Posted April 20, 2004 Meta Posted April 20, 2004 Another important reason why we DON'T give numbers: it depends on what your focus is. The more forums on a particular focus, the less useful each one is. If you are the first forum on widget-handcrafting, then a few dozen posts is plenty. If you are a forum on Google-for-webmasters, then a few thousand posts is plenty. The more forums on a particular subject, the less valuable each one is. At what point does a new forum have a NEGATIVE value? I'm not sure: maybe by the third, possibly by the tenth, certainly by the fiftieth. New forums in a very competitive area start out with a highly negative value, and they will need to be better than 75% or 90% of the forums that are already there, for us to do anything other than hope they die quickly, for the sake of all concerned.
poopertropper Posted April 20, 2004 Author Posted April 20, 2004 1: Ok, but when can I resubmit? This question seems to be dodged. 2: My site is also a directory for web designer, should I try and post it in another directory then? Thanks for your help
spectregunner Posted April 20, 2004 Posted April 20, 2004 Gosh, from your reply I get the distinct impression that you have not listed to a word we said. You can resubmit when you have ordes of magnitude more content than you have now. It might take years depending upon how quickly you accumulate posts. No you cannot submit to another category. In fact, you should not resubmit until you have come back to this forum (bookmark this thread) and asked an editor to take a peek at your website. Big hint: if we see you within six months, the answer is probably going to be no! Remember, we are looking for quantity and quality.
MrBits Posted April 21, 2004 Posted April 21, 2004 Prime Time I'd think from an editors standpoint, having a signup page that read's: "FOR TESTING PURPOSES ONLY NON-FUNCTIONAL PLEASE DISCUSS IN FORUM", might also influence their opinion of the "readiness" of this submission. I wouldn't want to submit a site with "Under Construction" pages either. BTW: the CAPs were not shouting... just a cut & paste from the page itself
bobrat Posted April 21, 2004 Posted April 21, 2004 Here your caution - nothing to stop your submitting again today - and get rejected again. Then add a few more posts and submit in a couple of week to try again. Get rejected again. Each time you do this, you waste editors time and your reputation detoriates. Then maybe at some point in the future you get to that magic point where your site has enough content to be accepted, but it's still maybe. The chances are you get rejected again, because you build up a list of rejections, and who wants to be the first editor to make that momentous decision to accept your site -- they are going to wait until it's really really very full of content.
poopertropper Posted April 21, 2004 Author Posted April 21, 2004 ok. I guess I'll have to wait until I think there are enough posts. If my directory builds up enough can my catagory be changed? I dont want to be limited by one thing on my site. It really serves to purposes. Thanks for all your guys help.
spectregunner Posted April 21, 2004 Posted April 21, 2004 We can discuss that when your site has more content and is legitimately ready to be submitted. It is impossible to speculate on what the site will contain in the future.
poopertropper Posted December 27, 2004 Author Posted December 27, 2004 can I get some feed back on my review? Its been over 6 months and there is a lot of new content and members. Thanks
jimnoble Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 http://www.web-design-database.com is AWOL right now. I suggest you fix it.
poopertropper Posted January 19, 2005 Author Posted January 19, 2005 AWOL? what does that mean? is there something wrong with it?
motsa Posted January 20, 2005 Posted January 20, 2005 I think I may be experiencing that AWOL-ness that jimnoble is referring to (or possibly a completely different type of AWOL-ness): see http://motsa.com/ODP/temp1.jpg (white text on white background in search results so that I have to highlight everything to read it) and http://motsa.com/ODP/temp2.jpg (big empty white box on main page) .
poopertropper Posted January 20, 2005 Author Posted January 20, 2005 Heh, no you just caught the site going through a complete over haul. We redesigned the interface completely so a lot of data has still yet to be added back. We figured we would chage our look after our one year anniversary. Every thing should be back within the week. Initially we were going to wait to do the update, so that the editors here could see the old site, but we had to do what was best for the site. I hope this does not count against us. As you can see our forum has grow tremendously and our company list is reaching 200 designers.
spectregunner Posted January 20, 2005 Posted January 20, 2005 well, given that there is a massive amount of randomness in when a reviewing editor might review the site, you may or may not be OK. There always exists the possibility that the reviewing editor will catch it with its content missing, in which the editor may skip it, may park it someplace for future review, or may just kill the whole thing off. If I can make a personal suggestion: put all your future site updates out of sight until they are working, then do the live update in a matter of minutes. It can be highly risky to do site development on a live site.
poopertropper Posted January 20, 2005 Author Posted January 20, 2005 I agree, but it is hard to do this with a schedual like mine. I moderate many forums, work, and do freelance on the side. This site is just my passion, so I need to do what I can when I can. The update should be complete and the site has more then enough content for the editors to see. I hope you guys like it. Sorry for all the confusion.
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