SiteTutor Posted July 25, 2004 Posted July 25, 2004 become an editor but my site is not even listed in dmoz. How do I go about it? Mike
SiteTutor Posted July 25, 2004 Author Posted July 25, 2004 I have ... 2 sites, and would like to be an editor for either categoy that I have been established in. That is why I was wondering how I can spend maybe a few hours a day editing the submissions, filtering the new content from the same old stuff reheated. Mike
djdeeds Posted July 25, 2004 Posted July 25, 2004 You don't have to even have a site to become an editor. Just choose a category and apply. Be sure to read the FAQ and the other useful threads in this forum first.
SiteTutor Posted July 26, 2004 Author Posted July 26, 2004 Great advice! Thanks! I just submitted to becoming an editor for "dog directories". Anything webmaster related seems to be too condensated. Mike
SiteTutor Posted July 30, 2004 Author Posted July 30, 2004 Do you guys know how long it takes for an editor application to be looked at / replied to? Mike
Meta shadow575 Posted July 30, 2004 Meta Posted July 30, 2004 It varies as far as I know. I applied three times before being accepted. One time it took several days before getting a response, The others were within a day or two. I do not know the precedures for editor applications, so please do not take this as a rule. My guess is that it will depend on how busy the application reviewers are. My advice: Just be patient and do not get discouraged by rejection letters. Like I said, it took three attempts for me. If you do get a rejection letter, be sure to read it thoroughly. It has great information on common reasons apps are denied. Good Luck! Shadow *The opinions I offer are my own and may not represent the opinions of Curlie.org or other editors.* It can take anywhere from two hours to several years for a site review to take place. I do not respond to private messages requesting site status checks. _______________________________________________ https://shadow575.wordpress.com/
SiteTutor Posted August 5, 2004 Author Posted August 5, 2004 Thanks, Shadow! I haven't heard back yet and may reapply soon. Mike
Meta shadow575 Posted August 6, 2004 Meta Posted August 6, 2004 Mike, Glad to hear you are interested in becoming an editor! If you think this is something you want to dedicate your free time too, then do not give up. I have only been an editor for a short time thus far, it has been very challenging learning the ropes and I still have a long way to go to be as good as I want to be. I am having a GREAT time doing the work though, this is something that has really been a positive for me as I really enjoy reviewing sites and seeing what is missing from the category I edit. I am thinking of applying for a second category to expand my workload to include more diverse sites too. One piece of advice: If you do not get accepted to the category you applied for look to a smaller category to get started. You are more likely to get a chance at a small category and if you do well can apply for more as you develope. I suggest choosing something localized to you that is underdeveloped. I have no idea where you live, but for example http://dmoz.org/Regional/North_America/United_States/California/Localities/S/San_Diego/Neighborhoods/ This may be a good place to start if you are familar with the locations (this just came from a contact address from one of your websites and may not be of interest to you-but a good place to start is your home town or county). You may find that one of the subcategory "neighborhoods" fit even better for you and can go even smaller. Make sure before you start the app process again that you read The Editorial Style Guidelines to gain an idea of how we do edits. If you can grasp this concept and apply it within your app it will be a help. These are just suggestions from someone who has been there/done that. I have no idea how those that review apps make decisions, and I do not know if this area is something you are interested in. It is just my attempt to give a potential new editor an idea where to begin. Please do not take this advice as a rule, I do not have any knowledge of how apps for editors are processed. I hope this gives you some pointers and helps. If/when you get accepted, feel free to drop me a message if you like. I would be happy to help you where I can and point you in the right direction when I can't. It is good to find as many fellow editors as possible who can offer advice. I have found several and I "lean" on a couple of them all the time for suggestions and questions. NEVER be affraid to ask for help. Good Luck! Shadow *The opinions I offer are my own and may not represent the opinions of Curlie.org or other editors.* It can take anywhere from two hours to several years for a site review to take place. I do not respond to private messages requesting site status checks. _______________________________________________ https://shadow575.wordpress.com/
SiteTutor Posted August 6, 2004 Author Posted August 6, 2004 Thank you so much, Shadow! How much time a week do you spend on editing? I want to start slowly and then work my way up. I either want to edit Dog related or webmaster related categories. I am very much against all of the spammy marketing sites out there and would love to help increase the percentage of web sites with helpful information in the search engines. I figgured that the webmaster categories were to saturated though and becoming an editor seemed too hard, but I will now go for the categories that appeal to me the most. Thanks a lot Mike Mike, Glad to hear you are interested in becoming an editor! If you think this is something you want to dedicate your free time too, then do not give up. I have only been an editor for a short time thus far, it has been very challenging learning the ropes and I still have a long way to go to be as good as I want to be. I am having a GREAT time doing the work though, this is something that has really been a positive for me as I really enjoy reviewing sites and seeing what is missing from the category I edit. I am thinking of applying for a second category to expand my workload to include more diverse sites too. One piece of advice: If you do not get accepted to the category you applied for look to a smaller category to get started. You are more likely to get a chance at a small category and if you do well can apply for more as you develope. I suggest choosing something localized to you that is underdeveloped. I have no idea where you live, but for example http://dmoz.org/Regional/North_America/United_States/California/Localities/S/San_Diego/Neighborhoods/ This may be a good place to start if you are familar with the locations (this just came from a contact address from one of your websites and may not be of interest to you-but a good place to start is your home town or county). You may find that one of the subcategory "neighborhoods" fit even better for you and can go even smaller. Make sure before you start the app process again that you read The Editorial Style Guidelines to gain an idea of how we do edits. If you can grasp this concept and apply it within your app it will be a help. These are just suggestions from someone who has been there/done that. I have no idea how those that review apps make decisions, and I do not know if this area is something you are interested in. It is just my attempt to give a potential new editor an idea where to begin. Please do not take this advice as a rule, I do not have any knowledge of how apps for editors are processed. I hope this gives you some pointers and helps. If/when you get accepted, feel free to drop me a message if you like. I would be happy to help you where I can and point you in the right direction when I can't. It is good to find as many fellow editors as possible who can offer advice. I have found several and I "lean" on a couple of them all the time for suggestions and questions. NEVER be affraid to ask for help. Good Luck!
kctipton Posted August 6, 2004 Posted August 6, 2004 Sitetutor.com isn't listable, and it won't do you any good to try to become an editor to get it listed or try to change people's minds about the site. If you're wanting to become an editor for reasons totally independent of your business interests, then go ahead and apply.
Meta shadow575 Posted August 6, 2004 Meta Posted August 6, 2004 kctipton makes a great point. That goes along with what I was saying about if you have the free time to dedicate to the work. If you are just wanting to get your own sites submitted no need to bother. Anything you do can be undone by any editor with editing permissions for your category. If you were to add only your sites it would be grounds for removal and sites to be removed. Back to the question: There are no guidelines that would mandate the amount of time that an editor must spend. Since this is a volunteer effort it is up to the editor to decide how much time he/she has to work on their categories. If you are asking for me specifically, I can tell you that if I could only offer a couple of hours a week then I would not have applied. My time varies based on what is to be reviewed. Some days I just do not have any time to do much more than check my email and maybe check out the forums. Other days I spend anywhere from 2 hours to 6 hours depending on what is in my unreviewed. Public site submissions are only a part of the submissions for review. Editors are constantly searching for sites not submitted that should be listed and submitting them to the appropriate categories for review. If you want to help and it sounds like something you are intersted in do not give up. I hope this helps a little with your question. Good Luck with the application process. Again, feel free to contact me if you get accepted and have any questions. If I cannot answer them I can certainly help point you to someone who could. Shadow *The opinions I offer are my own and may not represent the opinions of Curlie.org or other editors.* It can take anywhere from two hours to several years for a site review to take place. I do not respond to private messages requesting site status checks. _______________________________________________ https://shadow575.wordpress.com/
SiteTutor Posted August 7, 2004 Author Posted August 7, 2004 Thank you, Shadow! Encrypt, I am not trying to get SiteTutor.com into dmoz. Maybe one day after I make the appropriate changes necessary which have been run by me before. At this point that is not my concern. Mike
Meta shadow575 Posted August 7, 2004 Meta Posted August 7, 2004 Do not be offended by kctipton's post. It is meant to make sure you are aware of the Conflicts of Interest Guidelines pertaining to editors and comes from experience and wisdom. If you look back at the site submissions threads you will see many people who ask (demand) to become editors because the want to get their own sites listed. This is not the goal nor is it acceptable of the editors here. This is not for everyone. I am truly enjoying my time thus far and look forward to expanding my horizons. Again, do not be discouraged if you truly are interested in editing. Good Luck! Shadow *The opinions I offer are my own and may not represent the opinions of Curlie.org or other editors.* It can take anywhere from two hours to several years for a site review to take place. I do not respond to private messages requesting site status checks. _______________________________________________ https://shadow575.wordpress.com/
SiteTutor Posted August 7, 2004 Author Posted August 7, 2004 Thanks again! I don't like it when people think they know my intentions. My hands are tied with sitetutor.com and I am not at liberty of making certain changes since other parties are now involved. There are many sites listed in dmoz which generate huge incomes for their owners, but the web sites are so well crafted, that they meet the guidelines. I have a lot of respect for that and believe certain people should be rewarded. I may want to be inspired to take my own site to the next level but at this point I believe there is a strong need for web sites with real and unique content, especially with the Google IPO vs. MSN war on the verge of breaking loose. I have worked with some great web sites and many which are just the same old thing. Featuring affiliate links and no real content. Evereyone expects results and wants to profit but the bottom line is that when I go online, I want to find what I am looking for. Not 10 listings of the same thing. That is how I have once learned about web design, seo etc. I do have ideas that I personally am working on with SiteTutor.com, but that is on the back burner for now. I am doing fine with my Google and Yahoo rankings - for now I would love to be a part of something greater, even though it won't financially benefit me. The amount of time you spend seems very reasonable. Maybe like 14 hours a week to start out, something like that. I have seen the good, the bad and the ugly and know how to filter them and that is why I have asked right away if I can become an editor without a dmoz listing, because it will be a while until I have it. Sincerely, Mike Dammann SiteTutor.com - and 6 other sites which are not listed in dmoz either
SiteTutor Posted August 7, 2004 Author Posted August 7, 2004 Btw I have been an editor for joeant for the past 2 years and really like it! I am slo one for zeal, but for some reason that one does not inspire me too much. And JoeAnt is not dmoz, but I still like making an impact and somewhat of a difference. And yex, Encrypt, I did get sitetutor.com into joeant. And no, you don't want to see how it looked before it got in there
SiteTutor Posted August 7, 2004 Author Posted August 7, 2004 sorry, didn't misspell you name on purpose kctipton. I think I know someone with user id encrypt on another forum
donaldb Posted August 8, 2004 Posted August 8, 2004 Did you actually apply to edit a category? You mention something about "dog directories", but you didn't give the specifics. Which category did you apply for? What editorname did you choose? Did you receive and reply to the confirmation e-mail?
SiteTutor Posted August 8, 2004 Author Posted August 8, 2004 Hi Donald, I believe I applied for this section http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Pets/Dogs/Directories/ with the user ID sitetutor It was about 2-3 weeks ago and I have not gotten a reply yet. BTW, listing #7 DoggieDirectory.com , the domain expired. Can someone delete the listing before some cyber squatter gets that domain. Mike
Editall Callimachus Posted August 8, 2004 Editall Posted August 8, 2004 BTW, listing #7 DoggieDirectory.com , the domain expired. Can someone delete the listing before some cyber squatter gets that domain. When did it expire? There is a 45 day "grace" period after the expiry date during which the domain is held and the owner can renew it. It only becomes available to the public on the 46th day after the expirery date. ODP Editor callimachus Any opinions expressed are my own, and do not represent an official opinion or communication from the ODP. Private messages asking for submission status or preferential treatment will be ignored.
SiteTutor Posted August 8, 2004 Author Posted August 8, 2004 Oh ok ! Sorry, it expired July 13th. I have seen listings before for domain names that have already changed owners and had nothing but searchfeed links on them. Mike
donaldb Posted August 9, 2004 Posted August 9, 2004 I believe I applied for this section http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Pets/Dogs/Directories/ with the user ID sitetutor It was about 2-3 weeks ago and I have not gotten a reply yet. There are no applications in the system for that category or that editorname. It looks like you may not have received or replied to the confirmation e-mail. If you didn't reply to a confirmation then the application will never get into the system. You can try again, but you may need to use a different e-mail address if your previous application is still in the pre-screen queue waiting for a confirmation.
SiteTutor Posted August 22, 2004 Author Posted August 22, 2004 I have now resubmitted but still no email confirmation.
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