bloodwrath Posted August 22, 2004 Posted August 22, 2004 Please let me know the status of http://www.supportcave.com, submitted to 1.http://dmoz.org/Computers/Security/Malicious_Software/Spyware_and_Adware/Products_and_Tools/ It was orginally submitted several months ago, It was in jan or may this yr thanx for your time.
Meta nea Posted August 22, 2004 Meta Posted August 22, 2004 Your site suggestion from 18/Apr/2004 is waiting for review. If you haven't seen it listed within 6 months, you are welcome back for a new status report on or after Feb 22. :moz: Curlie Meta and kMeta editor nea
bloodwrath Posted August 22, 2004 Author Posted August 22, 2004 WOW thanx for the fast reply i take it either 1. that group has a ton of submissions or 2. thier are no or not enough editors that would why its still waiting u said "If you haven't seen it listed within 6 months, you are welcome back for a new status report on or after Feb 22" sorry im not 2 sure what this means i wait 6 months after my 18/Apr/2004 date. is this correct?
dogbows Posted August 22, 2004 Posted August 22, 2004 No, you wait 6 months from the time of your status check here, which is just the forum guidelines for status checks and has nothing to do with time of review. And time of review varies from now to two years or more. However, you can check the category from time to time to see if it is listed. Hopefully, your review will take place before your next status check of February 22, 2005.
bloodwrath Posted May 8, 2005 Author Posted May 8, 2005 Hi, i was added to the DMOZ in dec 2004 Now im gone cant find my site google toolbar no longer shows it firefox ext no longer shows im in the DMOZ http://dmoz.org/Computers/Security/Malicious_Software/Spyware_and_Adware/Detection_and_Removal_Tools/ does not show my site and the page has no PR last time i checked it has a PR of 4 was it moved? or did it change? plz help whats going on?
bobrat Posted May 8, 2005 Posted May 8, 2005 It was reviewed again recently and an editor decided it should no longer be included, as the content is not unique
bloodwrath Posted May 8, 2005 Author Posted May 8, 2005 Well what can i do about this can i get a 2nd opinion as i work hard building the site. looking at those sites, yes i dont sell my own product so maybe i could be moved to a different page? as my site is about spyware removal and i offer mostly free removal tools
Meta hutcheson Posted May 8, 2005 Meta Posted May 8, 2005 If the products are not your own, does the owner sell them on the net also? (That's what we mean by "non-unique content") If you offer free removal tools, are they also offered elsewhere on the net? Is there anything unique that YOU offer? Is it clear to a surfer what's unique on the site? If you're just hoping that of, say, a hundred products the editor will happen on the one that's unique before giving up in disgust (which happens after several items offered turn out NOT to be unique), then you're just gunning to be considered derivative/agglomerated spam. There's nothing inherently wrong with an agglomerated-content site. But ... just accumulating content that's already available elsewhere has no value for us. A successful AC site must have a core of unique content -- and then it will attract contributions to make it more comprehensive. Without that core, surfers are better off if you pull the plug on that site, and instead focus on contributing to some other site that already has such a core.
bloodwrath Posted May 8, 2005 Author Posted May 8, 2005 If the products are not your own, does the owner sell them on the net also? (That's what we mean by "non-unique content") Yes the owner does have them listed and some are sold via thier websites im looking at http://dmoz.org/Computers/Security/Malicious_Software/Spyware_and_Adware/ and i see websites that if could be compaired to my site offer removal tools & help with spyware, i also have a forum with more help and where people can post questions or get removal help Im am looking at way to expand and offer more services to my site visitors, My site does offer more than just spyware removal, im currently expanding my other man sections of the site If you offer free removal tools, are they also offered elsewhere on the net? See answer above.. Is there anything unique that YOU offer? See answer above.. Is it clear to a surfer what's unique on the site? Yes, the site was designed by me from the ground up.. its not a clone or even a template.. I have spent HRS working on the design and layout and will continue to do so, to improve the user experience. If you're just hoping that of, say, a hundred products the editor will happen on the one that's unique before giving up in disgust (which happens after several items offered turn out NOT to be unique), then you're just gunning to be considered derivative/agglomerated spam. Well ive seen spam site and I don’t consider my site spam or have spam content to me this is a spam site searched for spyware on yahoo position 15 http://www.samarainternet.ru/spyware then forwards to http://se59.info/search.php?aid=36815&q=$keyword or on yahoo for spyware removal position 21 http://spyware.qseek.info/free-spyware-removal There's nothing inherently wrong with an agglomerated-content site. But ... just accumulating content that's already available elsewhere has no value for us. A successful AC site must have a core of unique content -- and then it will attract contributions to make it more comprehensive. Without that core, surfers are better off if you pull the plug on that site, and instead focus on contributing to some other site that already has such a core Well I kind of get the idea or what u mean with agglomerated-content but ive never seen that term before.. And what changed in dec/nov last yr. my site was good enough now its not.. has the DMOZ standard changed, my site hasn't changed, has the editor changed and their interruption is different than the editor who approved my site last yr. thank your for your time Jason
oneeye Posted May 8, 2005 Posted May 8, 2005 And what changed in dec/nov last yr. my site was good enough now its not.. has the DMOZ standard changed, my site hasn't changed, has the editor changed and their interruption is different than the editor who approved my site last yr. The site was reviewed again as part of routine quality control and the original decision to list was reversed. If the content hadn't changed then the original listing was probably an error by the looks of it. But standards do change and the bar is being raised ever higher. If you don't keep up then there is always a risk a listed site may be delisted. Pack it full of original not-found-anywhere-else content and we'll happily consider it again.
bloodwrath Posted May 8, 2005 Author Posted May 8, 2005 Hi, im trying to understand this i look at these sites http://people.aero.und.edu/%7eewondras/ http://www.cexx.org/adware.htm http://www.doxdesk.com/ http://www.geocities.com/spywarekilla/ http://www.spywareinfo.com/ in this section http://dmoz.org/Computers/Security/Malicious_Software/Spyware_and_Adware/ and thier all similar to mine.. all provide programs, info , support so their not unique either..
oneeye Posted May 8, 2005 Posted May 8, 2005 If you think sites have been listed that don't meet our guidelines then there is a thread on this board for reporting them - within the new Quality Control section. There are all sorts of reasons why sites that may appear to be similar to yours might be listed - added a very long time ago and were different then, an error, they do contain info or a download that is unique that you've missed, to name but a few possibilities. The point is that it has no bearing whatsoever on the listability of your own site - don't try to understand it, it simply is. Two wrongs don't make a right etc. and see my first comment for the solution to that one. Also once we have one or two comprehensive sites on any particular topic, more of the exact same is of no use to us or our users - each site should offer something different or the user might as well have used a search engine. If X and Y have identical content and we review X first then Y is rejected. If X has miles more content and Y doesn't add to that then Y is rejected.
bloodwrath Posted May 9, 2005 Author Posted May 9, 2005 oneeye, thanks.. i will work on adding unique content and i dont want to report any sites or get them booted that was not my point thanks for your time
Meta andysands Posted May 9, 2005 Meta Posted May 9, 2005 Just to defend some of the sites you mentioned :-) http://www.spywareinfo.com/ is one of the highest traffic spyware help forums out there. Its spyware removal advice forum has: 31,277 posts in it - I'd say there are a lot of people out there who would therefore disagree with your assessment of its worth. http://www.doxdesk.com/ has its own parasite database (i.e. not one copied from another site) and its own list of rogue products. We welcome people who point out poor quality listed sites to us - but you included anti spyware resources that are (to my knowledge) highly regarded in your list. And considering both that, and the fact that you run a site in the same area, your suggestions appear less than objective. Kind Regards, Andy
bloodwrath Posted May 9, 2005 Author Posted May 9, 2005 Andy, my intension was not to say those sites are poor i was simply saying my site was similar to them.. Sorry if it come out that way they are great sites and have used them many times, and still read them monthly.
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