GoogleFish Posted October 11, 2004 Posted October 11, 2004 Hello. I submitted our Palm Springs site (http://www.palmsprings.us) to this category http://www.dmoz.org/Regional/North_America/United_States/California/Localities/P/Palm_Springs/Guides_and_Directories/ about a month ago. Could you please tell me its current status? Thank you.
Editall/Catmv arubin Posted October 11, 2004 Editall/Catmv Posted October 11, 2004 How does this site differ from http://www.palmspringsguide.us, which you asked about two months ago?
GoogleFish Posted October 11, 2004 Author Posted October 11, 2004 http://www.palmspringsguide.us does not exist anymore. I had a 301 problem with Yahoo because we changed the name to http://www.palm-springs.bz . Both sites have completely different looks to them as well as containing different information. The Palm-Springs.bz URL has a forum, a calendar of events and has a much broader focus than http://www.palmsprings.us. PalmSprings.us has more individual business listings for the city, not as much information or focus in regard to lodging. If you look at both sites, I am sure the differences will be very apparent. Thank you.
Editall/Catmv arubin Posted October 11, 2004 Editall/Catmv Posted October 11, 2004 If they're both yours, then only one of them will be listed.
GoogleFish Posted October 12, 2004 Author Posted October 12, 2004 I would be happy to have either one listed as neither one is currently listed. Also, is that the DMOZ rule? Only one website in any category that is owned by one person?
Meta hutcheson Posted October 12, 2004 Meta Posted October 12, 2004 The DMOZ rule, as you can see from the submittal policies, is that if you submit "related sites", the penalty is that they may all be rejected. I'd recommend being exceedingly careful not to violate that policy: that is the most draconian penalty mentioned in the submittal policies. The two sites you mention ARE "related sites" in the meaning of the policy.
GoogleFish Posted October 13, 2004 Author Posted October 13, 2004 Well the thing is, our first Palm Springs site was rejected because it has a hotels.com booking box even though we have a lot of unique content (forum, calendar of events, etc). So we accepted the fact that even though there are a number of other sites within the DMOZ that are hotels.com affiliates, we will not be listed for that site. So recently, we bought this site because it has good listings in the search engines and has what we feel is good, informative content about Palm Springs. We want to run a Palm Springs site that is a high quality, destination site that meets the requirements of Google, Yahoo, DMOZ, etc. So that's why I am a little confused about why we would be penalized for submitting a site to an appropriate category when we have no current existing sites in that category. The only site in the category is http://www.condosinpalmsprings.com and I hardly think it has as much content as http://www.palmsprings.us . So that's why I am confused about the submission policy.
spectregunner Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 You are misunderstanding a most important part of the rule: It is: Do not submit related sites. Period. It is not: Do not submit related sites to the same category.
GoogleFish Posted October 14, 2004 Author Posted October 14, 2004 So once you submit a site to a category, even if it is declined, you can never again submit a site to that category? Sorry I am having a hard time with this. I could understand if I had a website that was already in an existing category for Palm Springs. But I was unaware that if you get a site declined for a category, that you can never again submit a site to that category. So if you can just verify that my understanding is correct, I will let this thread die and I am sorry to occupy your time.
Editall/Catmv arubin Posted October 14, 2004 Editall/Catmv Posted October 14, 2004 So once you submit a site to a category, even if it is declined, you can never again submit a site to that category? I don't think he said that. However -- once a site is declined, it and related sites should not be submitted, unless the problem which led to its being declined have been solved.
GoogleFish Posted October 14, 2004 Author Posted October 14, 2004 And how does one figure out the problem as to why it was declined. I was never told why our first submission was declined. I would be more than happy to work on that site to make it conform to the DMOZ terms and conditions but I never got feedback as to what to change to make it in complience. Is it possible to access that information?
GoogleFish Posted October 26, 2004 Author Posted October 26, 2004 anyone? how does a person know if a site was declined and for what reason so as to fix the site?
spectregunner Posted October 26, 2004 Posted October 26, 2004 Read the submission guidelines as if you were hoping to find a reason to have a competitor's site excluded. We don't usually decline to list a site for obscure reasons. No one is going to flat out tell you that your site was declined for X, Y, or Z. If it were something that we viewed as emminently fixable, most editors would drop a nice broad hint or two. Why don't we tell: several reasons, first, it usually leads to a big argument that wastes everyohe time, and people only hear what they want to hear.
Da_OW Posted October 26, 2004 Posted October 26, 2004 Not being an editor I can give you an idea. Try this Google search. This tidbit of text was randomly picked from your site. DMOZ wants unique content. This is cut and paste.
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