thall89553 Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 If someone would be so kind, I submitted http://www.ladina.com over a month ago and as advised, am checking on its status. It was submitted for this category - http://dmoz.org/Regional/Europe/Italy/Business_and_Economy/Shopping/Gifts A big thanks
thall89553 Posted April 29, 2005 Author Posted April 29, 2005 Update on Ladina.com? Hello, I have given this domain 6 months and would please like to inquire if and when it will appear in the directory? Thanks so much. http://www.ladina.com
Meta hutcheson Posted April 29, 2005 Meta Posted April 29, 2005 No, you may not inquire either of those things. Because we don't ever know them for any site, whether submitted or not. We can tell you that the site is still waiting review. And that's all we know.
thall89553 Posted April 29, 2005 Author Posted April 29, 2005 If you would, please tell me this. What is the "average" time from submission to listing on your web site for a domain?
spectregunner Posted April 29, 2005 Posted April 29, 2005 There is no average. Site are reviewed in as little as a day, and as much as infinity. There is simply no way to predict, and any kind of number we give you is misleading.
Meta hutcheson Posted April 29, 2005 Meta Posted April 29, 2005 Well, arguably there are several averages. The median is something like five years, or infinity (depending on whether the rejected submittals are slightly less than half of all submittals, or slightly more than half, and ... I'd bet small sums on the latter, I think. The geometric and arithmetic means are both infinity, and will be so long as some sites are rejected. Oh, you can count up submittals and divide by number of sites reviewed per day, but ... who knows what the distribution would be? My best guess at a way of estimating the amount of time remaining until a REVIEW (not, of course, a listing) is to the amount of time the submittal has ALREADY been waiting, and multiply it by some fraction between .5 and 1. This, on the face of it, is absurd -- but it incorporates what is, I think, the most significant aspect of any theoretical estimate. My suspicion is that people think the longer a submittal has waited, the closer it is to being reviewed. Whether or not people actually think that, I firmly believe that it is exactly the opposite of the truth. The longer a site has waited, the LOWER chance it has of being reviewed, and therefore, the longer one should expect it to wait for review. But for all PRACTICAL purposes, infinity is the right number to use. That's right, infinity. Assume the site will NEVER be listed in the ODP, and then take steps based on that assumption. Regardless of what ACTUALLY happens, that will turn out to have been the best choice.
thall89553 Posted April 30, 2005 Author Posted April 30, 2005 Thank you All that being said, at what frequency should I set my calendar appointment reminder to inquire again about this site's review status? 6 months? 5 years? Tom
oneeye Posted April 30, 2005 Posted April 30, 2005 Up to you. Minimum is 6 months but there are only 3 outcomes - listing, waiting, rejected. The first is obvious, it is listed, the second and third are obvious, it isn't listed. So judge for yourself the value of asking again, or just get on with other things and if one day it is listed then you have a small bonus.
oneeye Posted April 30, 2005 Posted April 30, 2005 Just some helpful information - you've submitted to the wrong category so the site will be moved. #1 http://dmoz.org/Regional/Europe/Italy/Regions/Trentino-Alto_Adige/Localities/Castelrotto/ #2 http://dmoz.org/Shopping/Ethnic_and_Regional/European/Italian/ Submit again - to those 2 categories (yes, its OK, as long as an editor says so).
thall89553 Posted April 30, 2005 Author Posted April 30, 2005 I am getting to the point that I just think this isn't worth the hassle. When I submitted this site over 6 months ago, I specifically asked if the category was the correct category. I was told yes. I submitted and waited 6 months. I asked again. I am told it may never make it in the directory and the category was wrong. Go figure, and thank God for Google.
oneeye Posted April 30, 2005 Posted April 30, 2005 I specifically asked if the category was the correct category. You were pointed at a Shopping branch category (one that is just as appropriate maybe as the one I identified at #2). You didn't submit to the Shopping branch. You were told "You could pick the proper locality somewhere down in Regional/Europe/Italy" - you went for the Regional branch yes but you chose a national category not the locality (that I identified at #1). You may have asked for advice on the category but you didn't follow it. I am told it may never make it in the directory That is written clearly in the agreement you click to agree to when you suggest a site. No-one is guaranteed a listing. But you didn't click on those categories I suggested did you. Why don't you try. Actually the pages may be a bit behind on the public side so if you don't actually see the site listed then wait a few days. You asked for one listing, you got two, you asked how long it takes, we didn't know but by some sheer coincidence an editor (who has never posted in this forum so it has to be coincidence) found the site and listed it today. The second one was actually added without you asking - that happens too. Strangely that editor came to the same conclusions as I did about the proper categories - editors know the taxonomy. Oh and it is listed in http://dmoz.org/World/Deutsch/Online-Shops/Kunsthandwerk/Holz/Schnitzkunst/ too - a third listing no less. And it has been there or there abouts since 2001.
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