http://www.lingeriesexylingerie.com/

[flicker]

Or, if you have the URLs of the store listed under both its yahoostores and vanity addresses, you can give them in this forum: http://www.resource-zone.com/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=abuse and someone will look into them. Most times these mirrors have been added by mistake, not abusively, but we still want to fix them.

[hutcheson]

Yes, please, we do want to hear about those. Usually (never a promise) such things are looked into quickly -- much quicker than unreviewed site suggestions. (The reason is a quality issue: a missing URL doesn't make the ODP look bad, but duplicate URLs do.)

 

You can use either the abuse reporting thread here (URL as given above), or the official abuse-reporting system.

[kokopeli]

If you see anything that looks like abuse, it is definately appropriate to report it so that it can be checked out. That is something we definately want done.

 

How come editor sites are listed properly????? How come they don't sit around in categories without a nominated editor, waiting for one or two years???

I have a support group site that has been pending review in an area with no listed editor (of course no category truly is without an editor) since I submitted it in November 2002.

[raggedyrugs]

I also agree that noone was trying to be rude or annoying.

 

ODP is above board and honest editors attempting to build the directory. Unfortunately, some "ne'er do wells" do get by the checks and balance system and are most always found and removed as editors. If you find or suspect abuse, please by all means, report it. We don't like it either and with help, they can be found and properly taken care of faster.

The same goes for webmasters and site owners. Most of them are honest and just want a listing.

 

I do however as an editor, have to question and scrutinize websites that gives an business address in one state with a phone number from another state.

[schluggi]

Up front.

Thank you to all of you. I will definately check into that matter more deeply and follow your suggestion on the report.

 

I admit that I got pretty much upset, after finding out the fact about all the mentioned sites.

If I would be an editor (obviously i am not ) I'd strive to keep up the fair play. Which means - when business interests collide, I just have to do my best to give other sites as much attention as I've been busy to make sure my own sites are listed.

 

However, the ODP needs to adjust that URL issue.

In fact, Y! Store is just a hosting platform like many others are.

 

Three other things I like to add as well:

1. When the site has been submitted, there was not ONE link to adult content on the site.

The site is actively participatin within Y! Shopping, and therefor even the clothing images are altered to be shown clean, tasteful and without any violation against Yahoo!'s very strict guidelines. No front nudity or whatsoever.

 

2. I was and am aware that an editor is able to edit categories without a dedicated editor. But it slows things down.

 

3. In regards of search engine presence - The point I came from was this. The ODP is as well Googles as AOL's source for their own directories. ODP sites will be included into their directories. You are a webmaster, who want's to be part of their directories, their is only this one way to be included. I think the ODP should feel obligated to serve the webmasters who submit their sites in an all fair, and sure most objective way possible. Through the fact, that it's a source for big Internet services, it's not completely independant.

 

That's been my points from what I think have been misunderstood, or not known.

 

I do however as an editor, have to question and scrutinize websites that gives an business address in one state with a phone number from another state.

If I may say something to this.

I think you need to be careful with this judgement. You cannot generalize such. Our own business for example.

It resides right at the border between IA and NE.

The company has locations in both states. We are talking about a few miles distance. In our case, the area code would show an NE phone number.

In addition, look at 800 numbers. Those are redirected.

Companies business locations might just be thousands of miles away from the place where their phone gets picked up. You would not have a tad of a chance to find that one out.

More and more big companies using call centers overseas.

India for instance is a very popular solution for this. I think if you want to judge a companies website insertion by it's phone number, their might just be some injustingly interpretation.

For the convenience of the customer a 800 number is a fine tool. But personally I prefer a REAL area code. Even though not matching the state in the first place, but I know at least it's a domestic number.

Not to mention cell phones, which may have complete other area codes attached, but still belong to that state where the business resides.

Just my opinion on that .

[spectregunner]

Thank you for the thoughtful reply. We always appreciate it when someone takes the time and effort to think about the directory and make an emotion-free response that is designed to help us better serve.

 

I would like to comment on a few parts of your reply. Not necessarily to disagree, mostly just to comment.

 

I was and am aware that an editor is able to edit categories without a dedicated editor. But it slows things down.

 

In my experience with ODP, it actually speeds things up. For example, I can edit anywhere in Regional/North_America/United_States/Arizona That gives me the ability to jump into subcategories where no editor is assigned and work to resolve issues there. Today, for example, I attacked real estate sites in Scottsdale, Phoenix, and Litchfield Park. I was able to work on reducing the number of suggested sites, and I fixed some problems with existing sites. If we had to wait until there was a editor for those categories, the changed might have been a long time coming. We don't just let editors run amok within the directory because different parts of the directory have different editing policies or rules, and many parts of the directory require a certain amount of knowledge. For example, while I am very comfortable editing Society/Military/Aviation/Aircraft/ and all the sites below it, I would be very hesitant in trying to edit in Society/Military/Naval/Submarines/ because I may not be knowledgeable enough. Now, at some point an opportunity to help out in one of those categories may arise, and in doing so I may lean enough that I can edit there without supervision...but that is down the road at some point. The point is, we try very hard not to put an editor in a position where they can inadvertantly cause problems -- because cleaning up problems is a major consumer of time and energy.

 

On the other hand, when I was just starting out, it used to frustrate me to no end to work on a site that was submitted to the wrong category and to not be able to publish it in the correct category because I did not have permission to edit there. It still happens sometimes, but as editors get experience they are often granted additional editing permissions.

 

 

In commenting upon the question of phone numbers in one state and addresses in another, you said:

I think you need to be careful with this judgement. You cannot generalize such. Our own business for example.

It resides right at the border between IA and NE.

 

I think you are absolutely correct. To clarify, we don't make a final judgement on things like that, but we do use it as an indicator that the site requires a bit more attention than usual. Most often it is innocent, but you would be dismayed to see how many times it tips us off to a deceptive site that is trying to get multiple listings or is trying to beat the system.

 

Remember I mentioned that I edit within Arizona. We have three telephone area codes here -- 623 for communities to the west, 602 in Phoenix and 480 to the east. I can't tell you how many times wrong area codes have helped me catch real estate agent trying to get listed in multiple cities. So we don't make a final judgement on data like that, but it is just one example of the types of things experienced editors use to set off alarms for us and help us to keep the directory a bit cleaner.

 

Cheers!