Guest vayafiestas Posted May 23, 2003 Posted May 23, 2003 Re: Site Submission status of Web Site I understand,thanks for the advise.
Guest vayafiestas Posted May 23, 2003 Posted May 23, 2003 Re: Site Submission status of Web Site 1...All I know is that all these programs I look at tell you anything less than once a month is spam. Also some web masters from paltalk tell me once a month is ok maybe even twice monthly. So are telling me I only need to submit once and if I am accepted i need not apply again? 2...If this is the case is Inktomi,whatuseek,lycos,alltheweb all of which refresh my pages every 48 hours for the engines to pick up unnecessary? 3.. These search engines need to make one set of rules so people like me know what is correct.Quite honestly this search engine stuff is very confusing since I am not a web master even though I learn a bit each day from nice people like you. 4...We have tried to be as honest as we can in promoting our site but we can see competition cheating every day with the search engines. Example we have about 25 links on our links page. One competitor has about 37,000 and has no links page but the engines still acknowledge their links. I wrote several times to google asking them how is this possible and never even got a reply.
Meta hutcheson Posted May 23, 2003 Meta Posted May 23, 2003 Re: Site Submission status of Web Site > 1...All I know is that all these programs I look at tell you anything less than once a month is spam. Also some web masters from paltalk tell me once a month is ok maybe even twice monthly. So are telling me I only need to submit once and if I am accepted i need not apply again? Yes. And I am saying that you were given bad information for ulterior motives. 2...If this is the case is Inktomi,whatuseek,lycos,alltheweb all of which refresh my pages every 48 hours for the engines to pick up unnecessary? >Some search engines will offer (for a price) to refresh more often than usual. Each SE sets its own price and spider schedules, which you can read about at its website. That is a deal you can make with the SE, not something that you can get for free by manipulating submittals. (Some honest promoters may make those arrangements on your behalf. I can't give advice on how to find an _honest_ promoter: all I can say is, you haven't found one yet.) >3.. These search engines need to make one set of rules so people like me know what is correct. Be fair. Each SE gets to make its own rules. Requiring everyone to use, say, Looksmart's arrangements wouldn't be good for anyone. >Quite honestly this search engine stuff is very confusing. Yes, intrinsically from a technical standpoint, and inevitably from a social perspective. >4...We have tried to be as honest as we can in promoting our site but we can see competition cheating every day with the search engines. No doubt. But remember, WE aren't a search engine, nor do we play one on TV. We have a forum, and will be happy to investigate reports of directory abuse. >Example we have about 25 links on our links page. One competitor has about 37,000 and has no links page but the engines still acknowledge their links. I wrote several times to google asking them how is this possible and never even got a reply. Sorry, but this question is either so badly phrased, or displays such a profound misunderstanding of search engines, that I don't believe Google COULD have given a constructive reply. In order to understand Google, you'd really need a course in Linear Algebra, a semester's reading of the public forums that discuss Google (of which this is not one), and a study of the published papers on Page Rank. But it's worth repeating that we don't act on reports of search engine abuse. You could abuse Google all you want, and the ODP would still review your site for listing, without prejudice.
Guest vayafiestas Posted May 23, 2003 Posted May 23, 2003 Re: Site Submission status of Web Site 2... >honest_ promoter Is there such a thing on the net? If so where are they hiding,they could make a good living here. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /> 3...I still believe that at least a basic standard set of rules would make it fairer but hey that's only my opinion. Soon it won't matter much anyway since the big ones are buying up the smaller ones. 4... Hmmm, I did not think that statement was that badly phrased but my point was the engines don't really seem to care if someone is cheating them as long as they can count their money. <img src="/images/icons/smirk.gif" alt="" />
Guest vayafiestas Posted May 23, 2003 Posted May 23, 2003 Re: Site Submission status of Web Site 2... >honest_ promoter Is there such a thing on the net? If so where are they hiding,they could make a good living here. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /> 3...I still believe that at least a basic standard set of rules would make it fairer but hey that's only my opinion. Soon it won't matter much anyway since the big ones are buying up the smaller ones. 4... Hmmm, I did not think that statement was that badly phrased but my point was the engines don't really seem to care if someone is cheating them as long as they can count their money. 5... After reading some comments recently about how people try for a long time to get on DMOZ and fail I must admit before I found this forum and talked here with a few people, I thought DMOZ might go the way of the dinosaurs,but seeing your giving of yourselves has changed my thinking.
Guest cynbo3 Posted July 2, 2003 Posted July 2, 2003 Re: Site Submission status of Web Site 1.The emails I get that have my name and password do not work. I there for have to get a new one to get back in. 2. At the bottom of the DMOZ page is a link for EMAIL ADMIN which does not work. The emails always bounce back. 3. Can anyone help with this? 4. Can I ask about a submission update here or is this just for replys? <img src="/images/icons/confused.gif" alt="" />
Guest cynbo3 Posted August 17, 2003 Posted August 17, 2003 Re: Site Submission status of Web Site 1...Help! Someone has prevented me from replying in my thread for no good reason. How do I get this fixed. I was able to use an older thread to send this but not my last one. 2...Can someone tell me if Http://www.Greatexpectation.biz is getting any closer to getting looked at? It is in catagory- Shopping/Clothing/Undergarments/Lingerie/Fine
Guest cynbo3 Posted August 17, 2003 Posted August 17, 2003 Re: Site Submission status of Web Site 1...Help! Someone has prevented me from replying in my thread for no good reason. How do I get this fixed. I was able to use an older thread to send this but not my last one. 2...Can someone tell me if Http://www.Greatexpectation.biz is getting any closer to getting looked at? It is in catagory- Shopping/Clothing/Undergarments/Lingerie/Fine
Guest onlyme Posted October 8, 2003 Posted October 8, 2003 Re: Site Submission status of Web Site Hi' I need some help here. It seems each time I try to write here in the past months my sending the message gets blocked somehow. I don't know if the thread is corrupt or what the problem is. Even when I try to write emails to editors or DMOZ I get no response at all. It has been one year this month that I first submitted my site and it would be nice to know how much longer I have to wait to get the site looked at. The site is http://www.GreatExpectation.Biz and the category is http://dmoz.org/Shopping/Clothing/Undergarments/Lingerie/Fine/ If you read back on my thread you can see that no responses to my thread posts in months.
brmehlman Posted October 8, 2003 Posted October 8, 2003 Re: Site Submission status of Web Site Still awaiting review in that category along with fewer than a hundred others. I advise patience.
Meta hutcheson Posted October 8, 2003 Meta Posted October 8, 2003 Re: Site Submission status of Web Site >Even when I try to write emails to editors or DMOZ I get no response at all. That is the usual (and indeed the recommended) editor response to e-mails. We volunteers don't have a corporate firewall to protect our personal e-mail addresses, and we have to be careful. >It would be nice to know how much longer I have to wait to get the site looked at. Sorry, that is not a service we can offer, by the nature of things.
Guest onlyme Posted October 8, 2003 Posted October 8, 2003 Re: Site Submission status of Web Site Thanks for the reply. Its nice to know someone can see my thread again. On May 21,2003 I received the following: it's now waiting for an editor to review it alongwith less than 100 other sites. Now you are saying the same thing as some said almost five months ago. Is there an editor for this category?
Guest onlyme Posted October 8, 2003 Posted October 8, 2003 Re: Site Submission status of Web Site Hi, Well I can understand a personal email but I also wrote to the admin Email addy several times and that bounces back each time. So my question is if some one has trouble reaching people in the thread what is someone supposed to do to reach some help?
Meta hutcheson Posted October 8, 2003 Meta Posted October 8, 2003 Re: Site Submission status of Web Site There are always many editors for every category. And nearly always, all of them have other things clamoring for their attention. I'm one of the 3-400 most active editors. I have under 20 categories. Some of them have had unreviewed sites in them for months. On the other hand, I've cleaned up several little categories that my name was never on. And I've submitted several hundred sites to a category that I haven't had time to clean up yet. But today the "bad links" (robozilla reds) and spam-filtered sites are alling me. Take that story, multiply it by 6,000 to achieve enlightenment. (Patience, I'll grant you, is a more challenging goal.)
Guest onlyme Posted October 8, 2003 Posted October 8, 2003 Re: Site Submission status of Web Site Well, I guess I am like a bad doctor because I don't have a lot of Patience. I know you guys work hard but you also have to realize that after almost a year of trying to get DMOZ to review our site it does get a bit discouraging at times.
Meta windharp Posted October 8, 2003 Meta Posted October 8, 2003 Re: Site Submission status of Web Site We know that, but there is not much we can do to change it. We are doing our share, we are working on the directory. Millions of people are not doing so. So don't blame us for bad performance. Emails to staff: people reading that mail are approx 2. They don't really have the time to care for simple editing issues, they have enough work with the global problems. Curlie Meta/kMeta Editor windharp
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