raven Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 It's going on 4 years since I submitted (once only - to clarify). I want confirmation that it's time to submit again.
spectregunner Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 We have stated in many, many threads that a significant number of site suggestions were lost in the q4/2006 system crash, and a that no one would be penalized for an additional suggestion in 2007. We appreciate your restraint in not spamming us, feel free to suggest your site anew.
malicia Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 Not 4 years but still waiting We have stated in many, many threads that a significant number of site suggestions were lost in the q4/2006 system crash, and a that no one would be penalized for an additional suggestion in 2007. We appreciate your restraint in not spamming us, feel free to suggest your site anew. I submitted a site about 6 months ago and have resisted re-submitting as instructed but I don't know how long to wait before a re-submission wouldn't be considered spam. I can't imagine waiting 4 years!
spectregunner Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 I submitted a site about 6 months ago and have resisted re-submitting as instructed but I don't know how long to wait before a re-submission wouldn't be considered spam. I can't imagine waiting 4 years! While certainly not the norm, before the crash there were certainly suggestions that had waited more than three years for an editor. And, given that no site is guaranteed a listing, you need to consider the possibility that your site was consider and an editorial decision was made not to list it.
craigl Posted January 12, 2008 Posted January 12, 2008 This sounds like insanity. You are not really saying that someone should submit a site, and if they never hear back... well that's just it?
Meta mollybdenum Posted January 12, 2008 Meta Posted January 12, 2008 This sounds like insanity. You are not really saying that someone should submit a site, and if they never hear back... well that's just it? That is exactly right. There is no need for a submitter to do anything more, once the suggestion has been made. I will not answer PM or emails sent to me. If you have anything to ask please use the forum.
spectregunner Posted January 12, 2008 Posted January 12, 2008 You are not really saying that someone should submit a site, and if they never hear back... well that's just it? Yes. that is exactly what I am saying. We do not do notifications, or status checks of any type. While one is welcome to suggest a given site a second time as protection against the miniscule chance that it was lost, that is about it. All persons suggesting a site get a confirmation screen when the suggested is accepted by the system and put in the pool of unreviewed sites. That is the only communication we provide.
ListTo Posted January 12, 2008 Posted January 12, 2008 I guess I am screwed This sounds like insanity. You are not really saying that someone should submit a site, and if they never hear back... well that's just it? Wow, I guess I am screwed. I have submitted more than once. The first time I tried to submit my site to DMOZ I did not consider the rules. 4 times I have tried, and read them over and over. I have been trying for a year and ½ now. I have studied the submission rules and know them by heart, but I know now once means one time in your life. Still no acceptations, no matter what I do DMOZ will not approve my site link. I can not believe that this directory is going to ban me. I guess I will start my own directories so I can get my links out there on the web. I strongly believe in customer satisfaction and companies now a days could care less about you. Example: A person buys a domain from a person who has wrongly submitted to DMOZ. What now. Wow this is unreal.
Meta nea Posted January 12, 2008 Meta Posted January 12, 2008 I can not believe that this directory is going to ban me. Four site suggestions in a year and a half is not something that would get you banned. Please note that you are the first person in this thread to mention the word "ban". Reasons why you shouldn't suggest your site more than once are that it can often cause the review process to take longer (which is a negative thing for you) and that it can cause more, unnecessary, work for the editors (which is bad for us). It's simply a counter-productive thing to do for all people involved. But if you have a site that is listable and suggest it more than once because of a misunderstanding, it's certainly not going to stop the editor(s) from improving the category by including the site. I strongly believe in customer satisfaction and companies now a days could care less about you. Well, we are not a company, and the people who own or suggest sites to us are not our customers - we provide no service to them. Nor do we claim, anywhere, that we do. Curlie Meta and kMeta editor nea
Nilolaus Posted January 15, 2008 Posted January 15, 2008 List of suggested sites Wouldn´t it be much easier for all of us if one could search for his site in a "suggested sites list". I am also one who is not really sure if he did the right things to get his site listed. And while trying to get listed and trying to understand those catrgories, I think I lost track of what I was doing. Threfore I really would like to have a look wich site(s) I suggested and for the categories I linked the sites to. With this option we could save much time for the editors and the ones who suggested sites. Greetings from Southern Germany Niko
jimnoble Posted January 15, 2008 Posted January 15, 2008 We've discussed this idea many times, both here and internal forums. So far, the decision has been that our scarce development resources would be better spent smoothing the path for our editors. Looking at things logically, knowledge of your website's status doesn't help you. - It has been listed. You can check this for yourself by using our search for it. Look for domain.tld without any prefixes, not http://www.domain.tld. - It is awaiting review. No further action is needed from you. - It has been moved to a more suitable category where it is awaiting review. No further action is needed from you. - It has been declined because it's not the sort of site that we list (you can check this for yourself by studying this). No further action is needed from you. - We lost the listing suggestion in the great crash of 2006. If you suggested your website before 2007, by all means suggest it once more.
touchring Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Are categories manned by more than one editor? What if an editor is sleeping on the job or has lost interest in editing. Some of the categories look as though they have been frozen in time since the dot bubble com days! :confused:
spectregunner Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Our FAQ nicely addresses this question.
globdom Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 I submitted my website on Sept. 14 2007 and I believe just one and into the most appropriate category and “acceptable” website (but I can be wrong because it was my first website). If I make search (just domain) it says: “No OPD results found”. Should I be patient or should I expect that it is over and will never happen? What is a reasonable time frame? Thank you
spectregunner Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 Should I be patient Absolutely. What is a reasonable time frame? No such critter! In the past, I have personally reviewed suggestions in obscure categories that have been in the pool for more than four years. Your mileage may vary.
ECVV-marketing Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 I've tried my best to submit my website, since 3 years ago. But no reply till now. We are a global b2b website, like alibaba.com. It is said that there are several editors are from alibaba.com, so it is very difficult for a rising b2b website, like ECVV, to be listed. I don't know whether it is correct. Just one requirement, Can I get the reply , no matter it is listed or not? I'll try my best to gain what it is.
Meta shadow575 Posted January 21, 2008 Meta Posted January 21, 2008 It would make no difference even if there was several editors who worked for another site, the vast majority of the 200 or so editors who could edit in the category would not be associated with the same site. The other 6000+ editors could all see the edit history for the editors and category and any attempts to keep competitors out would stand out pretty clearly. Don't believe everything you read, its usually not fully accurate. I don't know whether it is correct. Its most probably not. The most likely reason a listable site is not included is that no one has looked at it yet. Just one requirement, Can I get the reply , no matter it is listed or not?We thank you for your suggestion that a URL might be beneficial to us in building the directory, but no further feedback will be forthcoming as to any editing action taking place. Its not a service we offer, so no sorry there will not be an automatic response when a decision is made. You have suggested your URL, your part is done - at least as far as DMOZ is concerned. You can check whether your site is listable by looking at the Site Selection Criteria and the category description in which the site should be considered. Hope that helps. Shadow *The opinions I offer are my own and may not represent the opinions of Curlie.org or other editors.* It can take anywhere from two hours to several years for a site review to take place. I do not respond to private messages requesting site status checks. _______________________________________________ https://shadow575.wordpress.com/
AnthonyS Posted January 22, 2008 Posted January 22, 2008 Same problem I've had the same problem. I've submitted a legitimate and established site years ago with no reply or 'apparent' consideration for submission. I read about the database crash/loss and resubmitted last year, with no consideration. Now I am not the type of conspiracy theorist to suggest collusion; however, I am legitimately concerned. As I mentioned, my site is well established and it is a member of the IRC community in good standing. I find it hard to think that legitimacy and relevance would be an issue as it is more established than others on the list but I am curious as to why it was refused when it is well listed in other mainstream directories and engines. It would be easier to understand if there were some accountability/explanation. You know? Thanks for the feedback!
gimmster Posted January 22, 2008 Posted January 22, 2008 I am curious as to why it was refused Do you have some reason to suppose it was reviewed and not listed? The most likely explanation is that no one has yet reviewed the site, however it is possible that the site was declined a listing if it did not/does not meet the requirements set out in the editing guidelines http://www.dmoz.org/guidelines/ . If you can be objective, you can check that for yourself.
spectregunner Posted January 22, 2008 Posted January 22, 2008 with no reply or 'apparent' consideration for submission. It is probably worth noting that we don't do replies. If the site is listed, the entire world knows. That is all the communication that we feel is necessary. Harsh, maybe so. But given the number of posters who claim the editors have all either fallen asleep or died, we are not about to waste valuable editor resources by developing a feedback system that does nothing to further the goals of the directory. We used to give status checks, but found that in the vast majority of cases the answer was the same -- no editor has reviewed the site.
AnthonyS Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 Do you have some reason to suppose it was reviewed and not listed? The most likely explanation is that no one has yet reviewed the site, however it is possible that the site was declined a listing if it did not/does not meet the requirements set out in the editing guidelines http://www.dmoz.org/guidelines/ . If you can be objective, you can check that for yourself. Yeah I did review that and made sure I was in accordance with the requirements. And yes, it is possible that no editor has reviewed it, I can accept that. Is there a set of guidelines revolving around editor activity? Just asking out of curiosity. It seems strange that years could pass without a review. I really do believe with full sincerity, that some form of feedback would reduce resubmissions and clear a lot of questions for people.
spectregunner Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 Is there a set of guidelines revolving around editor activity? Yes, editors are required to log in and make one edit every four months or their login id expires. Now, before you jump up and hurt your head on the ceiling this is really not a big deal. Editors do not take up slots, or quotas or space. An editor who ony does the bare minimum is not blocking or preventing another editor from editing. We'd gladly take 10,000 editors who only do one edit every four months as that wold be 30,000 edits a year that otherwise might not be done. We'd also be doing our best to get them even more involved so they would do more edits. that some form of feedback would reduce resubmissions and clear a lot of questions for people. We tried that, and it was a massive failure. automated feedback just aids the spammers, and human feedback just leads to arguments and name calling. We have a huge archive of posts that demonstrate that point.
gimmster Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 We have a huge archive of posts that demonstrate that point.You mean we had, they seem to have been disappeared a while ago.
motsa Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 We felt there was no purpose served in leaving the archive of site suggestion status threads available.
spectregunner Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 Goes to see how often I looked at the archive. Thanks for the heads-up!
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