Ercan Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 I have changed my website,but the domain is same,it took litle long time for nenew my website,and DMOZ has delisted my website,i thing the reason is all the url's has been changed in this website. i have submit the website 2 months ego,but still not listet:( please help me editiors sincerely <URLs removed>
Meta pvgool Posted May 24, 2009 Meta Posted May 24, 2009 Websites can get delisted for a number of reasons. Amongst them: - website was not available during a period of time -> the website is moved from public view for an editor to look at the issue - the content of the website changed and does not meat our guidelines anymore -> it is removed - the content has changed but still is listable only not in the old category -> the site is moved to a new category and will be reviewed there by an editor I will not answer PM or emails send to me. If you have anything to ask please use the forum.
Meta hutcheson Posted May 26, 2009 Meta Posted May 26, 2009 If you've suggested the site, then you have given the editors all the help you can give. Next time an editor is working in that neighborhood, your help will be available for them to use, and they'll make of it what they can. And if the suggestion is a good one, THAT will help the SURFERS. Which is what we're here to do.
Ercan Posted June 1, 2009 Author Posted June 1, 2009 pvgool said: Websites can get delisted for a number of reasons. Amongst them: - website was not available during a period of time -> the website is moved from public view for an editor to look at the issue - the content of the website changed and does not meat our guidelines anymore -> it is removed - the content has changed but still is listable only not in the old category -> the site is moved to a new category and will be reviewed there by an editor thank you
Ercan Posted June 1, 2009 Author Posted June 1, 2009 hutcheson said: If you've suggested the site, then you have given the editors all the help you can give. Next time an editor is working in that neighborhood, your help will be available for them to use, and they'll make of it what they can. And if the suggestion is a good one, THAT will help the SURFERS. Which is what we're here to do. Hi again, i agree with you but when will get my websites listed again?
jimnoble Posted June 1, 2009 Posted June 1, 2009 We have no idea. It'll happen when some volunteer volunteers to do it.
Ercan Posted June 1, 2009 Author Posted June 1, 2009 Thank you so mutch, but i think i need your to put my websites back to the DMOZ, i tryed to be editor long time ago....and..!? again no answer! sincerely jimnoble said: We have no idea. It'll happen when some volunteer volunteers to do it.
Meta hutcheson Posted June 1, 2009 Meta Posted June 1, 2009 If you've suggested the site, you've given us all the information we use when deciding what sites to review first. No additional information would be helpful, and it really wouldn't be fair to other websites to take other information into consideration.
Ercan Posted June 1, 2009 Author Posted June 1, 2009 Hi i suggested teh side yes,but my website was for a long time in DMOZ,i dont wanna be unfair to other websites,but i was allready in dmoz so i just renew my website is this fair to me ? and i made my website better then before why shall i wait so long? sincerely hutcheson said: If you've suggested the site, you've given us all the information we use when deciding what sites to review first. No additional information would be helpful, and it really wouldn't be fair to other websites to take other information into consideration.
Ercan Posted June 1, 2009 Author Posted June 1, 2009 Hi no my websites are in english,i live in USA,thank you for asking tsenol said: If you use Turkish category, you can get more help.
Meta pvgool Posted June 1, 2009 Meta Posted June 1, 2009 See my previous answer for possible reasons why a website might get unlisted and what will happen in these cases. Maybe you missed this text on http://www.dmoz.org/add.html Quote a site's placement in the directory is subject to change or deletion at any time at our sole discretion I will not answer PM or emails send to me. If you have anything to ask please use the forum.
Ercan Posted June 1, 2009 Author Posted June 1, 2009 No i readed carefully,thank you, but i think the reason is competition ,i know some people they have own websites and they are editors in dmoz, so they dont like to see us here, and they are delisting our websites..that what i think ! but anyway im sure there is allso editors they have selftrust and they are helpfull like you guys.. sincerely pvgool said: See my previous answer for possible reasons why a website might get unlisted and what will happen in these cases. Maybe you missed this text on http://www.dmoz.org/add.html
Meta pvgool Posted June 2, 2009 Meta Posted June 2, 2009 Ercan said: but i think the reason is competition ,i know some people they have own websites and they are editors in dmoz, so they dont like to see us here, and they are delisting our websites..that what i think ! Such statements always tell me more about the person complaining than about the people being accused. Don't think that while you would behave in such a dishonest way other people will do the same. I will not answer PM or emails send to me. If you have anything to ask please use the forum.
Ercan Posted June 2, 2009 Author Posted June 2, 2009 so thank you anyway pvgool said: Such statements always tell me more about the person complaining than about the people being accused. Don't think that while you would behave in such a dishonest way other people will do the same.
Ercan Posted June 2, 2009 Author Posted June 2, 2009 i think i made mistake,what i said have hurt you,i am really sorry for this but you can understand we are human and sometimes we can use over post for mistakes. sincerely hutcheson said: If you've suggested the site, you've given us all the information we use when deciding what sites to review first. No additional information would be helpful, and it really wouldn't be fair to other websites to take other information into consideration.
pquesinb Posted June 3, 2009 Posted June 3, 2009 pvgool said: Such statements always tell me more about the person complaining than about the people being accused. Don't think that while you would behave in such a dishonest way other people will do the same. Wow, what a way to jump on the poor guy for expressing his concerns about possible abuse of editing power within Dmoz. If I go out and buy locks for my house, does that make me a burglar? To paraphrase your own statement, when a number of folks are expressing their concerns about possible abuse and are immediately met with responses like this, it tends to tell more about the person responding in this way than the people expressing their concerns. Perhaps you were just having a bad day but that's really pretty sad. My two cents, - Phil
idk22s3 Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 It is so hard to renew. I have a site like you, it's almost 6 month:(
Ercan Posted June 15, 2009 Author Posted June 15, 2009 Thank You pquesinb said: Wow, what a way to jump on the poor guy for expressing his concerns about possible abuse of editing power within Dmoz. If I go out and buy locks for my house, does that make me a burglar? To paraphrase your own statement, when a number of folks are expressing their concerns about possible abuse and are immediately met with responses like this, it tends to tell more about the person responding in this way than the people expressing their concerns. Perhaps you were just having a bad day but that's really pretty sad. My two cents, - Phil
jacobdybala Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 I have to agree with pvgool on this one. Sure, competition can and may sometimes delist others (it's human nature to protect your own, I guess). But then again, it's easy to make statements like this and accuse others of such behaviour without having to support such statements. If you think about it, some categories would then have 2-3 listings that the editors own / run and the rest would get kicked out. That's not what I've been seeing on DMOZ, though. pquesinb said: Wow, what a way to jump on the poor guy for expressing his concerns about possible abuse of editing power within Dmoz. If I go out and buy locks for my house, does that make me a burglar? To paraphrase your own statement, when a number of folks are expressing their concerns about possible abuse and are immediately met with responses like this, it tends to tell more about the person responding in this way than the people expressing their concerns. Perhaps you were just having a bad day but that's really pretty sad. My two cents, - Phil
Ercan Posted June 27, 2009 Author Posted June 27, 2009 jacobdybala said: I have to agree with pvgool on this one. Sure, competition can and may sometimes delist others (it's human nature to protect your own, I guess). But then again, it's easy to make statements like this and accuse others of such behaviour without having to support such statements. If you think about it, some categories would then have 2-3 listings that the editors own / run and the rest would get kicked out. That's not what I've been seeing on DMOZ, though. if i didnt know something i would not write something like,dmoz is very serios directory if not i would not try to listed back again here,what i mean thats not fair what they made to me,and im %100 there is unserios editiors in this very serios directory. dear editors,you dont need to be angry if you dont need to be,we all have 5 finger in our hands but they all ara different,how can u wait all editiors here are respectfull? i know editor who is webmaster and has a websites listed here ! and i know he is allways helpfull to his customers..! and i know many other things but i dont want discuss here about this i just wandet help ! and please stop kindly threatening me,i dont try to abuse you or send you offencive words with my messages. im just litle upset ! sincerely
Meta hutcheson Posted June 27, 2009 Meta Posted June 27, 2009 Quote Wow, what a way to jump on the poor guy for expressing his concerns about possible abuse of editing power within Dmoz. If I go out and buy locks for my house, does that make me a burglar? No But if you go out and accuse everybody in the neighborhood of being a burglar -- that DOES make you a slanderer. But you've done worse, you've accused everyone in the neighborhood of being a burglar, even when YOU HAVEN'T SEEN A BURGLARY, simply because you believe your house MIGHT BE BURGLARABLE. If you have evidence of actual abuse -- not speculation about potential abuse! -- we'd like to hear it. If you have, for instance, a pattern of listable sites which "compete" with some particular site removed -- then, by all means, say something. You won't have to go around slandering everyone. In fact, if you have evidence, you don't need to accuse ANYONE. Just give the evidence. You'd be amazed how much better "actual evidence" is received, than slander based on uninformed speculation about "potential" actions. Go find the pattern. Until you have the pattern, you cannot possibly know anything. One site is not a pattern. How stupid would it be, for a dishonest editor to let a dozen or three competitors in, then remove just one single competitor! What a waste of a dishonest life!
Ercan Posted July 9, 2009 Author Posted July 9, 2009 Hi dear editors still not listed, i can not understand my website is now mutch better then old version,why still not listed,please tell me a reason, if i new i will delisted i wouldn't renew the website,ok im sorry it took litle why but its now better. my website was 4 year in dmoz.org,please help hutcheson said: No But if you go out and accuse everybody in the neighborhood of being a burglar -- that DOES make you a slanderer. But you've done worse, you've accused everyone in the neighborhood of being a burglar, even when YOU HAVEN'T SEEN A BURGLARY, simply because you believe your house MIGHT BE BURGLARABLE. If you have evidence of actual abuse -- not speculation about potential abuse! -- we'd like to hear it. If you have, for instance, a pattern of listable sites which "compete" with some particular site removed -- then, by all means, say something. You won't have to go around slandering everyone. In fact, if you have evidence, you don't need to accuse ANYONE. Just give the evidence. You'd be amazed how much better "actual evidence" is received, than slander based on uninformed speculation about "potential" actions. Go find the pattern. Until you have the pattern, you cannot possibly know anything. One site is not a pattern. How stupid would it be, for a dishonest editor to let a dozen or three competitors in, then remove just one single competitor! What a waste of a dishonest life!
jimnoble Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Did you not understand my reply of a few weeks ago? You might have misunderstood our objectives and how we operate here. ODP is a volunteer organisation building a directory as a hobby. Editors edit where they wish, when they wish and as much as they wish within the constraints of their permissions. We have no schedules or systems to force people to do work that they don't volunteer to do. ODP is not primarily a free listing service for website owners and it does not attempt to process their listing suggestions within the time scales desired by them. Some volunteer will process your listing suggestion in time but we can't predict who or when that might be. Elapsed times can range from a few days to a few years. There is no need to re-suggest your website and doing so could be counter-productive because a later suggestion overwrites any earlier one. Now please, stop expecting/demanding special treatment because it's unlikely to be productive.
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