dfphotographer Posted March 27, 2011 Posted March 27, 2011 Is it likely that there is no editor in a category for an extended period of time? I have been checking regularly for my listing and now (after 3 years) have been monitoring for any changes at all and there have been nonein 18-24 months. Is it just a lazy editor or is it likely that there isn't one?
dfphotographer Posted March 27, 2011 Author Posted March 27, 2011 Sorry this is the Category - Business: Arts and Entertainment: Photography: Photographers: Wedding and Events: Oceania: Australia: Queensland
motsa Posted March 27, 2011 Posted March 27, 2011 Since editors aren't required to do a minimum amount of editing beyond the one-edit-in-four-months required to keep their account active, there's really no such thing as a "lazy editor".
dfphotographer Posted March 28, 2011 Author Posted March 28, 2011 So to answer my question above, can I deduce from your answer that there is an editor of the category? As I stated there has been no change to the category.
motsa Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 No, you can't deduce that because I didn't address any of your questions at all in my post; I only commented on your use of the term "lazy editor". You can see whether or not there's a listed editor in the category by looking for an editor name at the bottom of the category, but the presence of a name there tells you nothing about that editor's past, present, or future editing plans in that category and the lack of a name there tells you nothing about the past, present, or future editing plans of any other editor in that category. (More than a hundred editors have the ability to edit anywhere in the directory.)
dfphotographer Posted March 30, 2011 Author Posted March 30, 2011 I asked a simple question and all received from you was attitude and a bad one at that. It doesn't seem to be just you either, scrolling through various posts there is an underlying disdain for those asking questions on here. If you can't be bothered responding in a civil manner why on earth would you bother wasting your (obviously) precious time? It seems like a fruitless exercise. Do you all sit in some virtual chat room guffawing about who gave the rudest response to some punter? Is there some sort of test that editors like yourself undertake to guarantee that you are arrogant and condescending. You carry on like you are doing gods work, mate lighten up!
Meta Artisands Posted March 30, 2011 Meta Posted March 30, 2011 Not sure where you are seeing any "bad attitude" here. Both responses from motsa were courteous attempts to explain the workings of the directory, which are commonly misunderstood. It's primarily what we attempt to do here. And no one appreciates being called lazy, especially the editors here who are spending volunteer time on this project. Curlie Meta editor artisands CurlieCrew
jimnoble Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 Lazy? I spend around 8 hours a day editing for no reward other than to be tarred with the lazy brush. Arrogant? Nope, I don't think so. ODPwise, I just happen to know what I'm talking about. Also, I avoid circumlocution because I'm only too well aware that English isn't the first language of many posters here. Rude? Nope, I've never called anybody rude, arrogant or lazy here. There's a big difference between a firm stance and rudeness. Impatient? Somewhat, because so few people posting here bother to first read available documentation, similar threads or even the thread they're posting in. Am I wasting my time here? Probably, but it's a break from editing and it's only for around 10 minutes a day. However, it's my 10 minutes and I'll spend them as I choose if that's OK with you.
dfphotographer Posted March 31, 2011 Author Posted March 31, 2011 Rude - Because I asked a question and got a response but no answer! Lazy - Because nothing has changed in a category since mid 2008! btw, I called no one individual lazy (unless you are the editor of the category I stated - in which case you are extremely lazy) Both points are wholly accurate no matter how many editors band together to respond to me that they are kind and courteous, upstanding individuals! Condescending and Arrogant - Just the general theme of this forum.
Meta pvgool Posted March 31, 2011 Meta Posted March 31, 2011 Rude - Because I asked a question and got a response but no answer! Your question was answered in this thread and in many other threads (many people who ask questions on forums are to lazy to first try to find an answer themself). Lazy - Because nothing has changed in a category since mid 2008! btw, I called no one individual lazy (unless you are the editor of the category I stated - in which case you are extremely lazy) Editors are not forced to do work they do not want to do. Editors can do any work they like, at any time they like and as much as they like. The only thing we ask them is that their work will be done according to the guidelines. As a result an editor never can be lazy. If no editor is interested in doing any work in a specific category than that is OK. We do not look at the small pieces (single website, single category), we look at the overall picture (the whole directory). Does the directory grow and improve. That is important. We know that sometime in the future someone will come that is interested in a category. It might be someone who is already an editor or it might be someone we do not know yet. When that will happen. We do not know, and we do not care. Both points are wholly accurate no matter how many editors band together to respond to me that they are kind and courteous, upstanding individuals! It might be true in your opinion. But it seems that your ideas about how DMOZ operates or should operate do not match with reality. I will not answer PM or emails send to me. If you have anything to ask please use the forum.
dfphotographer Posted March 31, 2011 Author Posted March 31, 2011 Yeah, no worries PV. My and (I'm sure) other people's expectations come from DMOZ's very strict instructions contained in their How to add a site advice where it states that "it may take several weeks or more before your submission is reviewed", it is not therefore unreasonable based on this advice to assume that it may be done in a manner of weeks or, at least, months. Really it should be done in DMOZ's prescribed time or the text on the guidelines should be changed to say that "we may review it soon or we may not review it for years", which would be more accurate and would lower the expectations of me and a great many others. I would assume then that the number of complaints/questions/gripes/whatever would probably be lower. I have offered to help before (and not just in my category) but I was knocked back (I was deemed unDMOZworthy) so now I just check every six months if anything has changed. It never has. No need for anyone to reply as I wont be back to check this for another six months..........
RZ Admin Elper Posted April 2, 2011 RZ Admin Posted April 2, 2011 I have offered to help before (and not just in my category) but I was knocked back... No need for anyone to reply as I wont be back to check this for another six months... When you check back, note that unless you were/are specifically asked not to re-apply, a rejection isn't viewed as final - you can analyze which common reason in the generic rejection mail likely caused your application to be rejected and reapply having corrected the issue(s). Often, the reviewers add more detailed comments to help. elper {moz}:curlie: All opinions expressed are my own, and do not necessarily represent the official point of view of the administration of either this forum or the directory.
jimnoble Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 @rooze: I've moved your OT post to your own reinstatement thread. It's less confusing if a specific conversation is kept in one thread.
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