Report Hijacks, Dead Links, Inappropriate DMOZ Content, and other issues here ONLY

[pmbug]

http://www.dmoz.org/Business/Investing/Commodities_and_Futures/Chats_and_Forums/

 

All 3 listed sites are bad:

• Commodity Forum - It's dead. 5 total posts and the most recent post is from 2006. Registration is closed.
• Futures Trading Chat Room - It's not a chat room anymore (if it ever was). It's a commercial site touting some trading software / platform.
• Futures trading and Traders education - Same as above. It's not a chat/forum - it's a commercial site touting a trading program.

 

I suggest the following sites as replacements / additions*:

<list of URLs removed>

 

I recently volunteered to edit this category but my application was denied because I've registered an account at every recommended site (which I disclosed on the application). I'm very actively scouring the web for all forums in this niche and so I guess I will never meet the dmoz editor application requirement to supply 2-3 examples that I'm not affiliated with. If I find a good candidate, I'm joining it.

 

* () does not represent suggested descriptions nor is it indicative of the descriptions supplied on my editor application. () is merely for your edification.

[motsa]

I've removed the list of sites to add to the category from your post. This thread is only for reporting existing listings that are problematic. If you would like to suggest new sites to be added to the category, please use the "Suggest URL" link at the top of the category page. Thanks.

[Elper]

my application was denied because I've registered an account at every recommended site (which I disclosed on the application).

Just try again with three non-affiliated example sites (but remember to includes all sites which you own, built or marketed in the affiliations section)

I've removed the two sites which have no chats/forums/content and left the "commercial" one, as it claims to be chatroom based if I understand it correctly. There may well be a better spot for it.

[pmbug]

<list of URLs removed>

 

I did not post a list of URLs or links. I know you guys are hyper-sensitive about that. I listed the domain name only.

 

If you don't want the suggestions, that's fine, I figured it might be helpful since otherwise the category would be empty. No problems. It's your show.

 

Just try again with three non-affiliated example sites

 

I already explained that there are no other example sites out there. Listen - I've scoured the net for several days now exploring this niche. There are only a handful of sites out there and I've registered an account at all of them. This isn't like some categories where there are thousands of options.

 

(but remember to includes all sites which you own, built or marketed in the affiliations section)

 

I did not own, build or market any of the example sites offered in my original application. I was no more affiliated with them than I am with the Resource-Zone. I merely registered an account with them so I could participate.

 

I've removed the two sites which have no chats/forums/content and left the "commercial" one, as it claims to be chatroom based if I understand it correctly. There may well be a better spot for it.

 

Thanks for looking into it.

[motsa]

I did not post a list of URLs or links. I know you guys are hyper-sensitive about that. I listed the domain name only.

Domain name is essentially the URL. We're not hypersensitive about people posting links -- we're hypersensitive about people posting site-specific details (including links, domain names, site names, etc.) except when reporting issues with listed sites.

 

If you don't want the suggestions, that's fine, I figured it might be helpful since otherwise the category would be empty. No problems. It's your show.

We love to receive suggestions for sites to add, but this is not the venue for doing that. That's what the "Suggest URL" link is for at the top of each category. If you really want to be helpful, there's your chance to do it.

 

I already explained that there are no other example sites out there. Listen - I've scoured the net for several days now exploring this niche. There are only a handful of sites out there and I've registered an account at all of them. This isn't like some categories where there are thousands of options.

Being a registered member of a forum should not be counted as an affiliation unless your activities there count as marketing, promotion, or administration of said site. To use your example of this site: for me, resource-zone.com would be an affiliation because I am an admin here; but it wouldn't be considered an affiliation if you are just a member here.

 

A more important thing to consider is that, if you could only find a couple of sites that belong in the category that aren't already listed there, it would be a terrible starting category for a new editor. You'd run out of work before you'd even started, which would lead to huge frustrations. That's something we've learned. If you would really like to be an editor, you might consider picking a small category for which you can find a lot of listable sites that aren't yet listed (perhaps a category in your local home town in Regional) and apply there -- once you're an editor and have experience, you can move on to other categories, perhaps including the one mentioned here.

[Ghufran]

Hey superiors,

 

Society/People/Otherkin/

 

Anara's Haven - Moved

Realmscape: A Spiritual Resource - Not available

Social Networking for OtherKin - Taken offline

[Elper]

I'm not so sure about the superiors bit...

But thank you for the report - all three sites removed.

[Ghufran]

I'm not so sure about the superiors bit...

But thank you for the report - all three sites removed.

Just being respectful

[Stizerg]

Check it out:

 

<Thanks for reporting. Moved to internal forum>

[Stizerg]

same category:

 

<Thanks for reporting. Moved to internal forum>

[windharp]

Thanks for noticing Stizerg. Seems we need to do some housecleaning there. I moved the details from your post to an internal forum, becasue this will result in an abuse investigation against an editor, which we prefer not to be interfered by parts of it being publicly readable.

[Stizerg]

No worries. I was looking for my link, submitted couple of years ago, instead I found <what suppose to be removed>

[sarolosa]

in http://www.dmoz.org/search?q=megaupload and this category http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/On_the_Web/Web_Applications/Storage/Free/ has listed megaupload.com but.. this websiteno longer exists

[Artisands]

#5038 is all set. Thank you.

[whatafy]

http://www.dmoz.org/World/Rom%C3%A2n%C4%83/Jocuri/Jocuri_de_noroc/Pariuri_sportive/

 

Golazzo.ro is not longer there is redirecting to another website !

 

Also case-de-pariuri.ro is not according to dmoz guidelines at all, is an affiliate website with no content just banners to online bookies. Pariuri-sportive.com is in same situation. Is incredibile how romanian make abuse.

 

I made a complain 2 weeks ago but noone ever sawed that complain regarding pariuri sportive section.

 

Also i don't understand why our sports website was rejected : pariuri-x.ro , we have a team of 7 sports journalist analyzing most of the games offering high qualitty content, we also hev a forum with over 650 k messages and many quality reviews and info. Last rejection was because we promote bookies, but all sports websites promote them even the biggest one. You can use google translate to see that every content is unique and very good info. Isn't this the main purpose of dmoz ? offering resources for high quality content for their visitors. We are on the market since 2006 and helped lots of users with our info. So please let me know what we are doing wrong, and how some simple websites like case-de-pariuri.ro and pariuri-sportive.com be approved and have low low quality info and are just build for affiliate programs.

 

I don;t know where to write anymore because i'm very confused how romanian editors eliminate the competition and put their friends or their websites there rejecting other, is not fair and is clear an abuse.

 

The id of my complain :

2f088f0aff295c5df07e39c663cc8dee

 

If someone here is very kind to help me with this problem i thank him from now.

 

Thank you.

[Fred77]

While still trying to list my website (Jim knows which one) to the category

http://www.dmoz.org/Society/Folklore/Literature/Rhymes/Nursery/, I just wanted to add that an editor might want to clean up this category a bit. Most of the URL-s are long tail, and one: http://www.love-poems.me.uk/a_children's_nursery_rhymes_index.htm seems to exist just to serve one purpose: push the rating of http://www.rhymes.org.uk/. It has NO ORIGINAL CONTENT, every page only lists a rhyme (and no comments on them) and a link to the other site. Why on earth was this site added?! Or was it, like Jim said: a self-serving editor, who after adding his sites "faded into the sunset".

[whatafy]

We know is not easy to deal with so many request, and we apreciate the effort of editors and admins, but from what i sawed in last years dmoz is becoming exactly the opposite of what it should be. To many poor websites, to many broken links, to much corruption, to many listed crap websites and deep links and so on.

 

For me is just an obsession to get listed there, i have more enaugh traffic and trust from search engines, but is a shame how people manipulate dmoz directory for their own interest and as are to many to control the things just gone wild.

 

I think that dmoz should reorganize the way how things work, because at this time can't be trusted by anyone. I don;t want to ofense anyone here, but i'm not the only one who observed all those things and most of them have the same opinion.

 

This is my honest feedback, hope will not be interpreted in the wrong way.

 

Still waiting a reply to my problems.

 

Thank You.

[Elper]

@Fred77 - Thanks for spotting that, the category hadn't been looked at in some time. Afaict it was an error rather than abuse, going unnoticed since 2003/2004... Now fixed.

 

@whatafy - Your first post was unlucky as it's the last one the page, and is about an issue in Romanian, which few editors here speak, so please be patient and try to ignore the vocal directory bashers elsewhere

[whatafy]

I am patient, i can write in English if you want is very simple, is enough to take a look at that section to see the broken links and the abuse, i'm just affraid that even someone bigger then the editor will take a look will take some action for that moment, but on long term they will be back, is not the first time when i make complains and they are back in the list even if they was removed.

 

So how can i trust anymore the romanian editors ? I work hard and spend money to bring quality like gogole guidelines says and dmoz want, but with no success geting listed in last 5 years.

 

Please jut take a look with google translate at that website, and please tell me what can be wrong with that site, because is the most visted website for bettors and the most active community from all sports websites in Romania, and is strange how some crap websites get approved ...

 

here is the link for english.

 

We have a 728x90 banner and a 300x250 as main banners so we can pay the journalists and the prizes for contests, still very low ads because most of romanian websites like gsp.ro prosport.ro have tons of ads you can't see the content because of so many ads ...

 

So please help me and tell me how i can be listed in dmoz so i can sleep at night

[whatafy]

I see someone deleted golazzo, but is almoust one month and nobody is checking the abuse made in section reported by me, and even is not readed by anyone.

 

Please let me know to who i can adress this isuess to take action, because at this time dmoz is just showing me what i;ve seen in last 6 years, that the abuse is alowed and is very corupted.

 

I decided that this year to take some actions by reporting them, but i see is useless.

 

Again, don;t take it as an ofense, is juts my optinion, i've made time to write and report all this stuff, i even applied to be an editor for that section as i have enaugh years of experience and I'm more then honest in my industry.

 

Please take some actions, i will help you with anything you need, but i need an ousider to clean the mess made by romanian.

 

As i told you i talked by email with one of them and when i asked why those two websites are aproved and mine not he didn't gived me a reply.

 

What do you think about this ?

 

I reported here because is my last chance to figure it out if dmoz will ever be what it supose to be, or i should go and forgot about this directory as i have no chance to remove all the coruption and abuse from my inrested sections.

 

Thank's again for reading my message, hope this time someone will take action.

[informator]

It may take some time to investigate public abuse reports. You can also send Feedback to the editors listed at http://www.dmoz.org/World/Rom%C3%A2n%C4%83/ , and ask them to look into the issue. When investigating abuse we need specific proof of abusive behaviour, not just general complaints.

 

In your posts here you also ask why your own site is not listed, but we do not evaluate sites here and will not answer questions about the status of suggested sites.

[whatafy]

Well is very clear my report, I'm showing you 2 websites that are poor and don't meet Dmoz guidelines but they are aprovved, and a website in same situation rejected by same editors.

 

Imagine you propose dmoz.com to be listed one a directory and come a simple directory with bugs and porn websites, crap websites, and they are listed and you rejected by same editor.

 

So what i want is an higher in rank editor outside Romania, to check them because is obvious at first look that they made an abuse.

 

I already think i'm think i'm the bad guy now because i want to see that the editors are doing the right thing.

 

On short :

 

Compare this 3 websites :

 

pariuri-x.ro (2 experienced journalist writting each day analysis of sports games, 5 journalist writting analysis and news, the most active forum about sports in Romania, over 650.000 posts, best user experience trough our unique content and ideeas that make them happy and come back each time, very long time on site for each user that show us that they like the website, and so on)

pariurisportive.com (poor information, clear made just to promote gamebookers, same thing since they are online)

case-de-pariuri.ro (listed few sportsbook, only sportsbook ads, and is clear that is main purpose is track visitors, no content at all just few texts around all big banners)

 

And tell me why was rejected and other 2 websites was aprovved and i got a confirmation from an editor that i'm rejected because of ads, but they have same ads and even more, they don;t have any good content, just 2 websites made for affiliate.

 

Please just use google translate, and please let me know your thoughts, anybody thoughts, because i can't understand how stuff works at this time.

 

For me is very clear an abuse and i sawed many owners complained that they are listed only if they pay the editors.

[informator]

So what i want is an higher in rank editor outside Romania, to check them because is obvious at first look that they made an abuse.

Those two editors listed at the top level for World/Română are editors with the highest rank (Meta) and very competent and experienced.

 

Are you sure your website was rejected, and not just waiting to be reviewed? Not listing a suggested site is not considered to be abuse.

 

You can also PM me if you have any specific concerns about a possibly abusive editor.

[whatafy]

Positive rejected because i sent email to en editor, he told me i'm rejected because i have affiliate links, when i asked then why those poor website with no content just affiliate links are there, forgot to answer me, and the time is passing and nobody is taking actions.

 

What do you think about the website, it is ok ? Because i can't imagine why after so much work i get rejected and other crap websites are approved .. where is the logic ?! if more people will tell me i'm crazy i will belive them, but at this point i think i'm still lucid

 

Also noone checked the complain.

 

Report 2f088f0aff295c5df07e39c663cc8dee was submitted on28/Jan/2012 12:08:43 UTC

 

Its current status is new - This report has not yet been investigated. We aim to do so at the earliest possible opportunity.

[whatafy]

This will be my last intervention, if after this detailed report, nobody will take action i will be convinced that DMOZ don't worth a penny, and all this years of hard work was done for nothing.

 

I will make a report for 2 sections that is in my field.

 

1. http://www.dmoz.org/World/Rom%C3%A2n%C4%83/Jocuri/Jocuri_de_noroc/Pariuri_sportive/

 

prono-sport.ro

Outdated website since 2005 nobody wrote anything, and has no usefull info.

Even the news posted in 2004 are copy paste from gazeta sporturilor.

Don't know what is this website doing in DMOZ ...

 

case-de-pariuri.ro

No info, no news. Only a list of bookies and sportsbook and their bonuses.

Clear an website just for affiliate links, no other info can be found.

 

pariurisportive.com

Since i know this website his main purpose was to ptomote the bookie gamebookers,no other info except how to bet there and is clear just an affiliate website for gamebookers.

 

 

2. http://www.dmoz.org/World/Rom%C3%A2n%C4%83/Sport/%C5%9Etiri_%C5%9Fi_media/

 

dailysport.ro

Unibet sportsbook on top

Bwin sportsbook on right

Clear just an website for affiliate

 

fanatik.ro

full with bwt365 sportsbook bookie

is clear that the ads is affiliate

 

fotbalonline.net

full of partybets banners, another sportsbook

Clear affiliate website

 

gsp.ro

most of teh time full with bet365 ads, just do some click you will see

Bet365 is another online sportsbook for gambling

 

onlinesport.ro

THIS IS MADNESS I CAN'T SEE THE CONTENT WITH SO MANY ADS ALL FROM SPORTSBOOK

BET365, bwin, bet-at-home etc.

 

 

prosport.ro

full of popus and every few clicks a full page banner etc.

thought is ont allowed excesive ads

 

And so on, as you can see from the list 99% website have affiliate banners, is very obvious that.

 

So again i ask you guys why all the crap from the web are approved and good quality websites don't ?

 

The answer with affiliate banner should not be the reason as i demonstrated above, all sports websites have this kind of banners.

 

Please let me know when pariuri-x.ro was added or the other websites in same situation removed.

 

I ca not belive i need to work so much to show you something that's obvious at first look, the only problem i see is that nobody cares to bring Dmoz to what is should be.

 

Why i have to spend hours to write you guys when all this could be avoided with some honest editors.

 

I apreciate their time and i know is not easy, but i can't apreciate their abuse ...

 

PLEASE other users who walk trough this topic, try to speak so our voices can be heard, or i;m the only one stupid enaugh to think their are honest people at dmoz and all this situation was just a mistake ... ?

 

Please, i chalange all editors to give a me a reply that would clear this situation.