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(This is thread drift and should probably be moved elsewhere.)

 

Meta editors review new editor applications.

 

I can tell you this: There is virtually no way that a new editor is going to be approved for Sports/Baseball. It's too big. You need to look to a smaller category (less than 100 sites or so) to start in.

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bad content

 

http://dmoz.com/Sports/Baseball/Directories/

 

1. Mike McKee's Major and Minor League Baseball Links (visit their site and you will find that 90% of it doesn't work. The site is not even updated to 2004. This is not good quality and turns visitors away).

 

2. BaseballJump.com (page cannot be found; few days now).

 

3. Top20Baseball.com (visit their site and you will find that 90% of it doesn't work. This is not good quality and turns visitors away).

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Does anybody read those reports?

 

I've posted report #470 exactly one week ago, still no reaction. I understand writing reviews is time consuming but deleting entries should be easier, shouldn't it?

 

Meantime I've discovered a lot more bad entries, they seem to occur in many romanian language categories. I wonder whether is a point in spotting those while the editors won't seem to bother much. :confused:

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Yes, they are read. They require someone who has access to the categories and can read the language to investigate them. Even if the changes had been done immediately, you wouldn't see any change in the public pages for at least a couple of days.

 

Thank you for reporting the problem listings. Please do not construe lack of perceived changes as a lack of activity or of interest. Please do continue to report problem links.

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http://www.dmoz.com/Business/Electronics_and_Electrical/Wiring_and_Accessories/

 

http://www.electromark-uk.co.uk/

Electromark

This site is apparently being updated but the current content has nothing to do with Wiring and Accessories. It's linking to an online pharmacy and casino. May be a hijacked URL.

 

http://www.kyungan.co.kr/e_kyungan.html

Kyung An Wire & Cable Co., Ltd

DNS error

 

http://www.mastercord.com.hk/home.html

Master Cord Enterprises Ltd

File not found. If you remove the home.html it says the site is under construction.

 

http://www.stormprodco.com/

Storm Products Company

No content, just a holding page.

 

http://customer.manufacture.com.tw/~tungli/

Taiwan Tung-Li Electronic Enterprise Co., Ltd.

redirects to http://www.tungli.com.tw/ and the name is different or it changed.

 

http://www.whitneyblake.com/

Whitney Blake Company

hijacked

 

http://www.zaferkablo.com.tr/

Zafer Kablo

No content

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double listing

 

I've allready reported, but nobody didn't saw..... :confused:

 

hello,

 

http://www.croatia-yachtcharter.com/

and

http://www.htiv.com/ are the same side (with little bit other color).

Both of them are listet in odp:

 

croatia-yachtcharter.com

http://dmoz.org/World/Deutsch/Regional/Europa/Kroatien/Wirtschaft/Reiseanbieter/Yachtcharter_und_Mitsegeln/

and http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Travel/Specialty_Travel/Boat_Charters/Europe/Croatia/

and http://dmoz.org/World/Hrvatski/Poslovanje_i_gospodarstvo/Industrija/Transport/ - transport - don't mean Yachcharter?

and htiv.com

http://dmoz.org/World/Hrvatski/Ra%c4%8dunala/Internet/Usluge/ they don't have nothing with pc/internet/...

 

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another one:

http://www.kroatien-urlaub-kroatien.de/ is listet here:

http://dmoz.org/World/Deutsch/Regional/Europa/Kroatien/Gastgewerbe/Unterkunft/Ferienwohnungen_und_-h%c3%a4user/

 

and the side forwarding to http://www.holidaydalmatia.com/kroatienurlaub.cfm

 

and that is the same side as http://www.holidaydalmatia.com/AccommodationCroatia.cfm

 

who is listed here:

http://editors.dmoz.org/Regional/Europe/Croatia/Regions/Dalmatia/Travel_and_Tourism/Lodging/

 

 

following the odp guidelines - that's nothing else as spam

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hijacked:

 

1. Gowend Folklor Community - Es handelt sich um eine anatolische Folklore Gemeinschaft. Über Mitglieder und Folklore wird informiert.

gowend91.de/

http://dmoz.org/World/Deutsch/Gesellschaft/Volksgruppen/

 

2. Auto teuer? - Nach Anmeldung und Eingabe der Daten werden Autokosten errechnet, mit Anzeige des Verbrauchs, pro KM oder Tag und grafischer Ausgabe, es gibt eine Demoauswertung.

autoteuer.de/

http://dmoz.org/World/Deutsch/Gesellschaft/Verkehr/

 

3. Marco Gorka - Angeboten werden Boomerang- und DebiTalk-Callback. [Nur mit Java]

callbackagent.de/

http://dmoz.org/World/Deutsch/Wirtschaft/Telekommunikation/Callback/

 

nothing but spam

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Link Directed to Different Entity

 

The following category contains a bed and breakfast link that is now directed to a different entity (a realtor):

 

http://dmoz.org/Regional/North_America/United_States/Maine/Localities/O/Ogunquit/Travel_and_Tourism/Lodging/Bed_and_Breakfast/

 

The link is:

 

The Ogunquit House

http://www.ogunquithouse.com/ - This link gets redirected to a realtor at http://resource.realtor.com/display/?id=14139864&t=far&sbj=rlt&poe=realtor It should therefore be removed.

 

gckorn

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I still do not understand how it doesnt meet guidelines also I understand you will not disclose this information as well. I do believe this is quite unjust to remove us from the directory for so called affiliates and if it is not considered unqiue then what is?

 

Apparently some or all of editors clearly feel our site violates one or more of these rules. If that is so then maybe someone can shed some light on this.

 

1. How are these 2 sites considered unique?

 

They run multiple domains. Heck one even runs a flat frame, which used to until just a couple weeks even framed to a common URL, now it just runs the same dll! But this isn’t considered Duplicate content?

 

http://www.americas-christmas-cards.com/ which is the same company that runs http://www.1st-class-christmas-cards.com/

 

1st class is listed in dmoz

 

1st Class Cards, Inc. - Business holiday cards. Includes catalog and company biography.

-- http://1st-class-christmas-cards.com/ Shopping: Gifts: Stationery: Greeting Cards: Christmas (1)

 

The content of this site except for the "Doorway" Page is the same content across all the sites listed below

It even used to frame into americas-christmas-cards.

Not too mention he has links to all of his other domains and affiliates in his link pages.

But according to editors this is not considered duplicate content?

 

The main frame is EXACTLY the same across every site!

 

http://www.1st-class-christmas-cards.com/

http://www.americas-christmas-cards.com/

http://www.americaschristmascards.com/

http://www.premier-holiday-cards.com/

http://www.americas-thanksgiving-cards.com/

http://www.1st-class-birth-announcements.com/

http://www.1st-class-wedding-invitations.com/

 

 

 

Not to mention they have hundreds of unrelated links. Which in itself is considered by 2 PhD's at Stanford is considered SPAMMING

 

 

2. DesignCrafters is another good example. Yet they are listed in ODP:

 

Design Crafters - Personalized holiday cards, with foil lined envelopes, choice of verse and ink selections.

-- http://www.designcrafters.com/ Shopping: Gifts: Stationery: Greeting Cards: Personalized (1)

 

 

These sites are affiliates, non-unique from site to site if ours is:

 

http://www.designcrafters.com/

http://www.corporatebirthdaycard.com/

http://www.thank-you-card.com/

http://www.patrioticcards.com/http://www.thanksgivingholidaycards.com/

http://www.jewishholidaycard.com/

 

Url spammed into their sitemap with keywords. One company many affiliates. But the answer is these are acceptable???

 

In closing this is exactly why, in my humble opinion, ODP is dieing. I agree with the logic of openness but its hardly open at all.

The political nature of how an editor can have his own website with a nice neat description listed in ODP, but most submitters are lucky to even an accurate description or a correct URL link.

My guess is if Google didn’t use ODP it wouldn’t have lasted this long. Most commercial sites wouldn’t even bother trying to get a listing here at all.

 

But my guess here this listing will be deleted as soon as one editor reads it. That just proves my point ODP is not open at all.

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How are these 2 sites considered unique?

You misunderstand what we mean by unique. We do not mean unique across the entire WWW, we mean unique with our directory. Just because a company operates multiple mirrors with the same content (or has an affiliate program so lots of other people have sites copying their content) does not mean that the ODP will not list the site. We just want one copy of that content listed, not multiple copies. That is what we mean by unique content.

 

Your two examples show you do not understand this. We have one site out of each group of mirrors listed, from what I can see. This is exactly what we want to do, which is have one unique listing for companies like this. Once that one listing is in place, then we start rejecting/removing mirrors with the same content.

 

My guess is if Google didn’t use ODP it wouldn’t have lasted this long. Most commercial sites wouldn’t even bother trying to get a listing here at all.

 

But my guess here this listing will be deleted as soon as one editor reads it. That just proves my point ODP is not open at all.

 

Wrong on both counts. We'd do just fine without the bother of commercial site owners trying to "game" their sites into our directory, and your post just got moved to where it would have belonged, if there had been actual abuse instead of just your misunderstanding of what we mean by "unique" and "duplicate" within the context of the ODP.

 

If either of these companies were to have multiple listings within the ODP, please let us know and we'll fix it -- Foe

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In a post which was deleted because it had lost most of its context, foetusized wrote:

(this thread can now return to its previously scheduled content)

 

Yes, please, by all means!

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Item 511 (gaga12/May 26) done. Thank you.

Item 512 done by another editor.

 

470, 480, 494-510 seem to be open

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URL changed - update listing not working for several months

 

Hi there,

In

http://dmoz.org/Computers/Hardware/Storage/Optical/

 

This is a old URL http://www.primeratechnology.com

 

Listing: Primera, Inc. - Manufacturer of a thermal CD printer, ink-jet color CD printer, an optical disk duplicator, and CD autoloader for printers.

 

New URL http://www.primera.com

 

With the Update Listing tool I get:

 

"Bad category

You may not submit your site to this category.

Please go back in your browser if you need to resubmit the form."

 

I've tried moving up to the parent cateogry with no success. I've tried contacting the editor directly. No success.

 

Can you help?

 

TIA

Paul

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There was a problem with that category. I changed a few things and I managed to get the an update request to go through for your URL. I also processed the request while I was there since there's no reason to have the wrong URL in the directory :)
Posted

Unbelievable abuse

 

This is the worst I've seen in DMOZ yet - all of the following links redirect to the same page - which has nothing to do with the titles, description or categories they've spammed here:

 

Actually, there's thirty five of them and it would be far too time consuming for me to list each link and each category, I apologize.

 

Search for "tradeeasy" - I checked the first page of results and they all redirect to the same page - a page that's not even listed in DMOZ.

 

I for one would appreciate the removal, entirely, of any entity that abuses this system so openly. Thank you.

 

TimS

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re: tradeeasy. I have done the first few of these, but don't have time right now to do more. It doesn't look like abuse to me, though - but it is something which needs to be corrected. Most of these sites were listed several years ago, and it appears that the "hosting" company has reorganised significantly. Thank you very much for bringing it to our attention.
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Apology and an Update

 

I apologize for not really knowing how you guys track stuff in here. I'm new to this thread. So, if I'm doing it wrong, please forgive me. Items 495-496 done and will work on 503 next. But I've run out of time and patience for now. If there are others later that I missed for the Sports branch in particular, even if they deal with other branches as well, and no one offers to deal with them, please either email or PM me and I'll do 'em when I can. :)

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It doesn't look like abuse to me, though - but it is something which needs to be corrected. Most of these sites were listed several years ago, and it appears that the "hosting" company has reorganised significantly. Thank you very much for bringing it to our attention.

 

No problem. If having 35 DMOZ listings all redirecting to the same page is a hosting company issue, I need to change hosting companies ;)

 

Thank you for your attention to this matter. :)

 

TimS

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In reference to duplicate/mirror sites listed at http://dmoz.org/Reference/Education/Products_and_Services/Academic_Papers/Fee_Based/

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EduPapers.net

http://www.edupapers.net

 

Notice the EXACT SAME fax number (413-410-1219) listed on each site:

 

http://www.edupapers.net/contactus.html

http://www.4termpapers.com/term-papers_contact.html

http://www.bigpapers.com/contact.html

 

NOTE: Do a search for "413-410-1219" on Google.

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Mega Essays

http://www.megaessays.com

 

An obvious mirror of the following sites:

http://www.directessays.com

http://www.exampleessays.com

 

Try a keyword search on any/all of them, and you will receive the EXACT SAME results.

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Bell Writing

http://www.bellwriting.com

 

You will find the EXACT SAME links on the "Research Links" page of every one of their sites (with duplicate content) that they list here:

 

http://www.bellwriting.com/links.htm

 

Please not that every site on the "Research Links" pages has the exact same order forms, and each of their search engines provides the same results pages from http://search.essaynotes.com

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Genius Papers

http://www.geniuspapers.com

 

Compare their "Custom Research" page (https://www.snrinfo.com/geniuspapers/) to a page from another ODP site in the same category, "Mega Essays" (https://www.snrinfo.com/megaessays/). Also, here are a few other sites:

 

http://www.snrinfo.com/duenow/

https://www.snrinfo.com/directessays/

https://www.snrinfo.com/c3/

https://www.snrinfo.com/madpapers/

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Academic Research Papers

http://www.academicresearchpapers.com

 

This site has its duplicate sites accessible on its home page:

http://www.academic-research-papers.com

http://www.termpaperassistance.com

http://www.academictermpapers.com (same phone number)

http://www.researchcentral.com/searchform.html

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ACI Writing Assistance Center

http://www.aci-plus.com

 

Here are their mirror sites:

http://www.termpapers.net

http://www.thesis-dissertation.com

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ASM Communications, Inc.

http://www.researchpaperlibrary.com

 

Here are their mirror sites:

http://www.asm-communications.com

http://www.a1-termpaper.com

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My Essays

http://www.myessays.com

 

The services of myessays.com are provided by "The Paper Store," which sells the EXACT SAME papers through 400+ sites. Both their "Custom Essays" and their "Third Party Essay Search" are provided by "The Paper Store" (http://www.thepaperstore.net).

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Paper Masters

http://www.papermasters.com

 

Notice the exact same phone number (1-877-801-0409) at each of these sites:

http://www.modeltermpapers.com/contact.htm

http://www.mastersproposal.com

http://www.papermasters.net

Posted

Hello,

I have found some inappropriate listings in Computers/Internet/Web_Design_and_Development/Hosting/Directories/

 

1. multi-listing for same company. Four sites below are actually belongs to the same company. From the menu on top, they are just sub-section of the main site.

 

(a) askxxx

Name: Ask Colocation

URL: http://www.askcolocation.com/

Decription: Directory of server colocation providers.

 

Name: Ask Dedicated Server

URL: http://www.askdedicatedserver.com/

Description: Searchable database of dedicated server offers.

 

Name: Ask WebHost

URL: http://www.askwebhost.com/

Description: A directory of web hosting offers.

 

Name: AskWebHosting.com

URL: http://www.askwebhosting.com/

Description: Directory of shared, dedicated, colocation and server manufacturing companies

 

(b) Tophosts.com

Name: Top Hosts

URL: http://www.tophosts.com/

Description: Searchable directory of web hosts.

 

Name: UK.Tophosts.com

URL: http://uk.tophosts.com/

Description: Searchable directory of UK web hosting companies.

 

2. Unrelated site

The site below is not a directory anymore.

Name: ComparingHosts.com

URL: http://www.comparinghosts.com/

Description: Search and compare different Web Hosts. See their features and prices. Free, cheap and others. Select the best.

 

 

Thanks

Pang

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