DMOZ a Monopoly

hutcheson

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What "fairness" means, in ODP terms, should be:

All that matters about a website's listing is the unique content of the website itself, and its interest to surfers.

Google ranking, or any other search engine placement, should be irrelevant.
Alexi rank, or any other measure of traffic, should be irrelevant.
ODP suggestions should be irrelevant.
Ad revenue, or ad expenditures, should be irrelevant.
Wealth (or poverty) of the website owner should be irrelevant.
Desires and ambitions of the website owner should be ESPECIALLY irrelevant.

But, in practice, (1) How DO you determine interest to surfers? and (2) How CAN you eliminate the unfairness caused by ulterior motives of website owners and the weaknesses of automated tools?

The first answer is simple. We sample surfers by getting hundreds or thousands of them to help find what interests them. (That's the volunteer editors...) The larger the sample, the better.

And the second answer is also simple. We have multiple sources of unfairness: all of which can affect whether our volunteers (sample of surfers) can find a website. That's where experienced surfer judgment comes in. For each category, a surfer can sample all the various ways of finding sites. A sensible surfer will focus on what works best.

There's no single solution. Volunteers, like all other surfers, have to keep adapting, to penetrate through all the site promotions (and other kinds of spam) to get to what interests them.

But there is a simple principle: logically, all solutions must lead in the direction of making surfing MORE efficient, and website promotion LESS effective.
 

TC9

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FIFO might make sense if we were a listing service. That's just a guess though, since I've never been involved with a listing service. But we emphatically are not a listing service. The suggestion pool is only one source of listings, and in many categories, it is the least productive one. And dealing with suggestions and listings is only one of the things that an editor does. If I decide to build a category, I can take a look at the suggestion pool if I wish, and cherry pick any that happen to look promising. Then I'll go looking for sites. If it is a local Regional category, those sites might be from my personal experience or from sites that I've seen on local advertising. If it is a topical category, personal experience and searching the web might be most productive. We don't even require sites to be suggested, which is the most fun part of this hobby IMO. If this were made pay and FIFO, editors would leave in droves. We do this for fun.


Sorry you guys blew it with the "lucky fish" theory. From that point it does not make sense, for most normal people.
 

hutcheson

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With some people, just telling the truth blows it. I like to think those aren't the normal people. But there are certainly social circles which would make one think otherwise.
 
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