Sorry for the world lying I guess! --- I see after being beaten up for some time how one may build walls. I don't believe I started out yelling, or even really ever yelled at all. The stats you mention are horrible! to say the least. I do appreciate Dogbow's help and many others in the past---truly, but think of my small one sided effort for one moment: I didn't come here knowing all that ails the DMOZ and I wish I could offer a panacea, yet in fact I'm just trying to suggest a site for inclusion. please don't hang on small words like "listing service" it really is synonymous with the more proper term "directory"-----I like the potato analogy thought very unique! I guess I'm just like # one potato and # two potato, yet some have called me hot potato, but now after all that has been said I feel like mashed potato.