How to deal with rejection

crowbar · Nov 20, 2006

I have two sites, that have been listed in the Directory for several years, and I get almost no or very little traffic going to them because they are kind of specialized, I don't need a lot of traffic, and I haven't really tried to optimize them.

They only exist as a service to those who might be interested in that type of information,

. I don't even know where my sites rank, I've never bothered checking.

It's just another tool I use, not the main tool.

motsa · Nov 20, 2006

It would be morally and ethically wrong for me to contact an editor in that area and ask him/her to review my site, and probably would be grounds to dismiss me as an editor.

In and of itself, no, it wouldn't. And, while it is inappropriate, I don't know that I'd call it morally or ethically wrong.

crowbar · Nov 20, 2006

Well, here's one of the few instances where a minor editor can disagree with a meta editor,

, as we're a pretty Democratic community, and every editor can voice an opinion, and be heard.

motsa · Nov 20, 2006

You're welcome to disagree with the moral or ethical issue. As to it being a dismissable offense, well...

crowbar · Nov 20, 2006

Touche',

, you've got me on that part.

Meta editors are usually right 99.9% of the time,

, and if I get corrected by one, the only person I get irritated with is myself, for posting incorrect information.

The Old Sarge · Nov 21, 2006

Yeah, but if you can catch one of 'em on one of those other .1% times .... SWEET!

L66 · Mar 29, 2007

Sorry in wrong thread

L66 · Mar 29, 2007

site Banned?

Hi
Its nearly 3 years now since my first submission and my site is still not listed. Someone told me it has a page rank of 0 and that this means that it has been banned - but I don't know if this is true or why?
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Can anyone help?

crowbar · Mar 29, 2007

Page rank has nothing to do with whether a site suggestion gets listed in the ODP, and is not even considered. What matters is the unique content on the site. All site suggestions have an equal chance of being included, there are no prerequisites that I'm aware of.

Callimachus · Mar 30, 2007

And while not relevant to ODP, afaik PR0 simply means the site has few or no links to it, is not high in searchs and/or has minimal content for a spider to index.

But as Google is fairly secretive about details - your guess is as good as mine.

L66 · Apr 2, 2007

Thanks for your reply Callimachus. Well my site has a lot of content and a lot of links to it that I have built up over the last couple of years - and it is quite high in searches on Ask, Yahoo and MSN - so I am left wondering if it is banned from the Open Directory and therefore the Goggle directory as I understand that Google uses Open Directory data. How do you know if your site is banned as oppossed to just not yet processed by the ODP - even 3 years after first submission?

crowbar · Apr 2, 2007

There is a very easy way to find out if your site has been banned, just read our Guidelines on what not to include in the Directory, and if your site suggestion fits any of those, Bingo! You know the reason.
http://dmoz.org/guidelines/include.html

If it doesn't, then it probably just hasn't been reviewed by an editor yet, think positive,

.

The Guidelines that we edit by are very open to the public,

.

Other than that, no, there is no way for you to find out the status of your suggestion, and no need for you to know, as there is nothing you can change on your site to get it listed. It either has what we're looking for or it doesn't.

Eric-the-Bun · Apr 2, 2007

Just to clarify the banning issue - sites are only 'banned' from the ODP if the site owner has been extremely bad (eg trying to bribe an editor). Google bans sites for their own reasons some of which are known (eg duplicate content, various SEO tricks).

When an editor reviews a site, they may be aware of seo tricks being practised but they concentrate on whether the site has unique content not how it is presented (unless it is impossible to find

). A site with good quality unique content can be listed in the ODP even though Google may ban it for trying to game Googles algorithms. A site may not be listable in the ODP but Google may give it a high position in its SERPs.

I think the only item that both Google and the ODP do not like is duplicate content.

regards

L66 · Apr 2, 2007

Thanks Eric for the info. My site has never been in the Google Directory, because they take their data from the Open Directory and my site is not there. As to whether the ODP banned it or whether it has just not been reviewed, who knows? Never tried to bribe or threaten an editor - just complain about not being included! It is frustrating because my site offers a service which is unique in England & Wales so from that point of view our content is not duplicated.
There was a time in the past when our content was duplicated on another site as the company hosting the site had a server break down and I could not access the old files but had set up a new site with a new host. If it was banned perhaps that was what did it. So is it a lifetime ban or is it alright to resubmit ?

Eric-the-Bun · Apr 3, 2007

It will be alright to resuggest the site once to the appropriate category in topical (if it meets the topical criteria - see appropriate category descriptions) and once in regional under the appropriate locality category if you have a 'bricks and mortar' address.

Unless you have been trying to bribe or threaten editors, your site will not be banned. It may have been deemed unlistable (see guidelines on that score) but, more likely, it may not have been reviewed yet.

Suggest and Forget

regards

L66 · Apr 3, 2007

Will take your advice, Mr Bun. Thanks for your patient informative replies.

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